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Holy fuck, I loved SaveAFox, what the hell is wrong with people 😭🤮
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Another reason why the US healthcare system sucks shit.
It was a redditor, they also posted how proud they were, I posted a screnshot but ppl tweaked at me for using reddit and I deleted it rather than argue
Lemmy people are weird. Can you link/show me this person?
No, this was the SaveAFox person... This is like hearing if The Girl With The Dogs were to suddenly die tomorrow. I'm not sure I could handle so much good leaving the world so quickly.
They had been posting fundraising updates on their YouTube for the last couple weeks. I hope they can keep it going.
I believe she had BPD as well, which in itself often gets you targeted harassment online while also making you extremely sensitive to said harassment.
Wait what? People harass people online because they've got BPD? Like they specifically target people who are suffering from BPD? Why??
Fucking gross.
Because hurt people hurt people.
People with BPD can be very manipulative and controlling, they can leave you with your own psychological trauma if they're not self aware enough to realise what they're doing. And some people are just evil and don't try be better. So there are a lot of people who have been hurt by people with BPD and they then become a target for harassment.
Sad part is that most people with BPD just want to be loved. Unfortunately they can't trust love or anyone around them. It's fucked and really hard to manage, but possible with a lot of hard work.
I've been hurt a lot by people with BPD. I have provided a lot of emotional (and financial) support only to eventually be taken for granted and/or abused. Some people with BPD can be absolute monsters.
It's taken years of therapy and self healing to understand how they're hurting too and seriously don't understand how they're hurting others sometimes.
Just wish more people could learn to not lash out when they're hurt and seek healing. It's hard regardless if you've got BPD, PTSD, or whatever, but it's always the right way to go. Everyone deserves respect and understanding.
Is BPD bi-polar disorder? Or borderline personality disorder?
Latter
I don't know her at all - is that BPD diagnosis something confirmed, thet she shared and all?
I have terribly mixed feelings about people with BPD.
On one side, lots of empathy: they often feel miserable and (not always, but) very often their BPD is the result of trauma or abuse.
On the other, and having lived it for a decade and a half: they can make the lives of people in their surroundings an absolute abominable horror-movie type of nightmare.
It's actually treatable but not all people with BPD seek treatment, it's a tough one.
There just aren't enough therapists learning how to administer dialectical behavior therapy. Very helpful for people with BPD, addiction problems, or PTSD.
I personally cannot confirm it, I just saw it being mentioned on one of the BPD subs on reddit.
I think it's important to differentiate people with mental health issues and bad people with mental health issues.
I have BPD, it sucks so much and I suffer a lot of emotional pain. I have hurt some people, but the first person I really hurt, I loved like no other, and when she told me what I was doing to her when she left me, I decided not to be that person anymore.
I've fucked up a lot of my life during my worse episodes, but I choose not to be a horrible person to the people around me. I don't always get it right, but I try.
A diagnosis doesn't make you evil or bad, that's a personal choice.
BPD is brutal on the people close to the person with the disorder. Absolutely brutal.
My sister has BPD. My parents cut her off after some particularly spectacular episodes. I stuck up for her even after she wasn't allowed around anymore. She tried to off herself in my room when I let her hide out from her boyfriend (not the first time she did that). She ended up moving in with that scumbag who on multiple occasions beat her senseless and threw her out of a moving vehicle. I had to come over (strapped mind you) and escort her from his place to the station onto a greyhound to go live with her cousin. I have so much fuckin trauma on account of her. She's better now, for now. If it comes to it again tho I'll always fight tooth and nail to keep her safe, regardless of how outrageously she behaves. That's my fuckin sister.
Thank you, you're an amazing sibling. Just don't let her abuse you. I hope she is getting help, it can get better.
I have an uncle who has been cut-off from the family because he refuses to treat his ~~BPD~~ bipolar (whoops) and his sisters got tired of taking care of/cleaning up after him. "Doesn't like how the medicine makes him feel". Pretty sure he started self-medicating with other stuff and found a woman who enables him, don't know exactly (it's been two decades since I last heard from him)
If he was taking medicine for it, it likely wasn’t BPD; BPD doesn’t have any chemical treatments. Treatment is usually Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to try and regulate the person’s emotions and establish a more normalized baseline emotional state. But that requires a lot of personal effort, and many people with BPD refuse to follow through with it. And CBT only really helps with the emotional outbursts; It doesn’t do a lot for the abandonment issues, desires to self-harm, dissociation, etc…
Maybe he was bipolar? Bipolar is in the same category as schizophrenia, because the mania produces delusions and hallucinations. And it is treated with meds similar to schizophrenia.
BPD relies on DBT and not CBT
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I would also like to add another perspective.
I think its important to bear in mind that there are plenty of examples of animal rights and environmental organisations that have been the target of harrasment campaigns bankrolled by corporate and political interests.
I'm not suggesting this is what happened here. I think we have to scrutinize any possible conspiracy -- I really want to make that clear. If you look through the other comments, there's a lot to delve through here.
But I would suggest bearing in mind that smear campaigns aimed at cultivating a kind of political nihilism is something that does happen.
The best you can do, if you care about these causes, is to continue to support them in whatever ways you can.
In my opinion, all animals deserve a hell of a lot better than this.
If only. The fact is there are also plenty of animal rights organizations that think they could have done a better job and/or that she was doing it wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if there were people who saw SaveAFox as another Tiger King.
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As a long time supporter of SaveAFox, it's hard to really even process this. I am sure being an online personality to try and fundraise isn't easy, but never did I dream that there was such a degree of hate lobbed at Mikayla that she'd decide to end her own life. Someone so kind and devoted to the lives of creatures who are constantly exploited and cannot save themselves. It's just despicable, and all I can really hope for is that Mikayla's mission continues on in spite of such significant loss.
This one hits me hard. So sad. So goddamn sad. Seeing her and those foxes really cheered me up. Her death just stabs me right through the heart.
As a long time SaveAFox fan, Mikayla's death is crushing. This is a woman that deeply deeply cared for animals selflessly her entire life.
The internet has no shame and has become a truly abhorrent place.
It was reddit. Reddit is dead center of this.
Edit: its amazing how being correctly identifying reddit as the culprit is downvoted on lemmy when its clear most of us are here because reddit sucks a skunks ass.
Proof? Not that I'm saying you're wrong, I'm just not familiar with this lady at all so would like to know more.
There was a whole subreddit called "r/SaveAfoxSnark" that went private after the news came out. One reddit mod there got doxxed, panicked, and deleted their whole reddit history.
Edit: The mod's reddit handle is/was KazeoLion. There are only quotes here about this, so take it all with a grain of salt until we know more. These are YouTube comments:
MappleBunny 13 hours ago One of the people responsible for the bullying is a reddit user by the name of KazeoLion, who has since been doxxed and had to delete most of his reddit posts (which are still available in the wayback machine), he even made a post where he doubled down on his actions.
We will neither forgive nor forget. Rest in peace Mikayla
bluebowser3347 21 hours ago There was a whole subreddit called r/SaveAfoxSnark that was dedicated to bullying and harassing Mikayla. The moment the news came out that she had killed herself the subreddit switched to private.
Those snark subreddits need to remember that they’re dealing with human beings.
The older I get the more I understand why the concept of demons was something people could accept.
Idk, some people are just bad. A cousin, adopted but my uncle's adopted son nonetheless, is a good example of this. He's no longer with us, thank fucking god, but this little devil was bad from the moment I met him to the point he died at... idk I think it was 18 or 19 years old.
His parents got him a pet weasel. It 'disappeared'. I don't remember the specifics but it was pretty clear it didn't just run away. His brother would show up at the dining table with bruises around his neck. Just fucking evil shit like that. Ended up running away at 17 years old, died in an attempted robbery sometime after that (his memory is not something I try to keep alive).
Point is: there is such a thing as irredeemable. At least, in my eyes.
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Why the fuck would you harass someone for saving foxes? Is it because she's a woman?
God gave us dominion over all creatures read the Bible!
There are children dying in the streets here, why don't you do anything about them?
The foxes bread for fur here are not capable of living in the wild, "rescuing" and releasing them is the real animal abuse.
I think fox fur is fancy, fuck you lady!
Just some examples I can think of off the top of my head. People can get pretty polarized when it comes to killing, or not killing animals.
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