Brave is a series scam company.
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2025
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Exactly I'd even use Chrome before I'd ever touch Brave.
Would you mind giving some context? Ive never used Brave, but my dad does. In which sense is it a "scam"? Would want him to switch if its terrible
People care more about CEO's opinion on politics and hate Web3 crypto more than they understand technical browser stuff.
Brave is far from perfect and the company had their contreveries but honestly if you disable all the cryptocrap and tweak it a tiny bit so it does not show you ads and feature you don't use it is the best chromium browser in regards to security and privacy.
Ungoogled chromium by default can't even compare, it's not crap but brave does so much more than it's better for the vast majority of users.
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Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn't mean we should listen to his browser recommendations
True but he's sparking more interest in FOSS so that's still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it's a win.
You're right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn't worth sharing
Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion
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I know it's been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven't seen the video so I don't understand why it's in the "not ideal for a normal human" list, and I am biased since I use plenty of "not for normal" tools.
Brave 🤮
What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He's a yt star, not a privacy expert.
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This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.
that is not his list, just a random screenshot.
Yeah i just checked the video and it appeared for like 2 seconds as a side note. He never even tried Brave apparently.
probably just his editor put it for the video
It's vitally important to know which browser is preferred by the guy who says slurs to an audience of children
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... I don't think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).
(As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y'all nerds know shit! <3)
Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.
Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?
qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the "if your site doesn't work, it's your site's problem" motto.
Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a "unsafe site, access anyways?" button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.
Edit: typo
Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than "all or nothing".
IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it's highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don't work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There's little in between.
I'd rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.
Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.
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Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)
Ppl focusing on the negative. It's just his subjective list. He doesn't claim to be an expert. Lemmy autism peaking here. More exposure to foss is good guys
LibreWolf W. Missing my boy Zen Browser on there tho
Edit: also RIP Mull 😔✊
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Wait. He hasn't crumbled into dust or whatever these "Offputting guy with shit politics who has an inexplicable army of irritating tween fans" youtubers do when they're past their shelf life? I thought he was irritating when I was in high school. That was...what, thirteen years ago now?
I've looked into it and it's not even his tier list, just one he found online.
Brb, double clicking 'Netscape Navigator' to go on 'Ask Jeeves' to look up what this "PewDiePie" is
The only problem with Ungoogled that makes it "not ideal for a normal human" is that fact that it is still cumbersome af to download it. Regular people don't know github and how to click on "show all assets" and pick the right build.
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Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.
Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is "good enough". Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.
I rather have "good enough" tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.
Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.
Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.
Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie's advise surely is, even if its not perfect)
Sir, this is 2025, we don't do nuanced opinions here anymore.
Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.
No Mull?
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Superiority complex in the comments.
Kim Kardashian's face care routine.
Still can't believe that Pewdiepie became one of those Linux youtubers, only thing missing is linux distro reviews and why he can't use X software xD
Where's ladybird
Edit - I didn't know about the Transphobia going on there. that is unjustifiable.
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That's a good find that famous people are getting into FOSS (should be free as in freedom too). But it's really not a good thing that they spread a non expert speaking to the crowd.
Tier lists are meant to be mainly subjective and pretty relative to the person that made it. In that way Pewdipie could quote experts but in no case should make a tier list based on what he found the last weeks (I didn't fully watched the video so maybe I'm wrong and he made a big disclaimer)
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