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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 100 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wouldn't a victory tour require victories?

[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everything is a victory when you live in your own reality.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's not in prison, got re-elected, and has almost fully implemented a fascist dictatorship. If that isn't victory for a megalomaniac narcissist, I don't know what is.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus he's making giant piles of money bilking the American people. And you can bet that, before his term ends, he'll give himself a blanket pardon.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Meh, the good thing about such a pardon is that it can just be ignored by the next government, just like his government ignored everything that happened before

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

That probably wouldn't happen. What would happen is that it would go to the courts whether a president can really pardon himself or not. His corrupt SCOTUS might actually say they can, but regardless it would probably take long enough that he'd be dead and not caring.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is he actually going out in public, not surrounded by bullet proof glass?

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How else to stage ketchup in the ear again?

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Let's leave the conspiracy theories to the far-right lunatics, please. The attempt killed an innocent bystander and the shooter was a right-winger. Even if they were cynical enough to stage the first part on purpose (and honestly, I wouldn't put it past them), the shooter being one of their own completely undermines the entire point of staging something like that to begin with.

Besides, this administration is way too incompetent to keep a secret. With the way Trump has been blundering his way through the Epstein accusations, do you really think he could keep his mouth shut about staging an assassination attempt?

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it was staged I'm absolutely certain Trump didn't plan or know about it, he'd never sign off on anything that risked his life or required him to be even slightly injured. It's unlikely but the only conspiracy scenario that makes any kind of sense would be something like a CIA operation carried out under the orders of Vance or a senator that kept Trump in the dark.

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

If Trump doesn't know about it, how do they do the blood on the ear? Not even elite marksmen can reliably hit someone's ear at that distance without risking actually hitting their head. If it were fake blood, Trump would have to be in on it.

And again, the shooter being right-wing almost entirely negated the propaganda advantage the GOP could gain from it, it doesn't make sense for it to have been staged.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure let’s leave the conspiracy theories to the far right as the far right is currently engaged in a literal pedophilic conspiracy theory reaching to the highest levels of government. Lemmoids are so goddamn stupid lol

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

See the thing about the Epstein thing is that we actually have evidence for it. "Trump staged the shooting" is baseless speculation.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean..... If you're a giant piece of shit there's been a lot to celebrate this year.

Congress has been dog shit as always, but the courts have significantly expanded the power of the executive and seem as though they are going to continue to do so. Once the justices got away with basically ignoring the concept of precedent with roe vs wade they've basically been handing down vibes based rulings since.

It's going to be interesting to see how the current court stands by their rulings if we ever get anyone slightly left of George Bush back in the White House.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Are you not enjoying your victory gin and victory cigarettes, comrade? And now that chocolate rations have increased from 30g to 20g, we have even more to celebrate.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago

Hey I have an idea, how about Trump serves 20-25 years for multiple counts of statutory rape and then we’ll stop talking about how he raped kids.

He held down teenage girls and forced his tiny mushroom penis into them, then threatened their lives for snitching after what he would call sex.

And he doesn’t want you to acknowledge that or talk about it or ask questions.

And your local politician likely supports him despite his known pedophilic tendencies because of financial benefits.

And your racist neighbors likely support him because he’s deporting brown people.

And the lead pedophile at your local church likely endorsed him behind the pulpit as a man of gawd.

And the media owned by friends of Trump refuses to show court documentation explicitly describing these rapes.

So as I see it, it’s our American duty to never let this conversation die.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 58 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everyone on the Epstein list deserves to face open justice.

If he’s innocent he could have just released the list and proven it to the whole world.

I don’t think anyone would even trust that now.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Everyone on the Epstein list deserves to face open justice.

There's no Epstein "list". What we have are his digital Rolodex, his flight logs, his various alleged business associations, and the volume of blackmail that may or may not still exist.

And because Epstein was a major lobbyist and "philanthropist", the end result is different ideological factions cherry picking who they want to blame while waving off their friends as incidental.

Epstein is the pedophile's "Too Big To Fail"

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That’s kind of just semantics and the frap the Trump admin is doing to say it doesn’t exist.

The FBI definitely has a file on this. They have the contents of his vault, his log books, etc.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The FBI definitely has a file on this.

Almost certainly. But Mossad has files on the folks running the FBI, so everyone's at a stand-off.

They have the contents of his vault, his log books, etc.

A big part of their job is picking through all of that material and drawing out exactly who was a "client" and who was merely an acquaintance.

But (again, as the Trump freak-out demonstrates) a large part of that work is weeding out people that the FBI Director is friends with and focusing in on people who won't create any collateral damage. Because Epstein was in so deep with so many people, the only target they could really go after was Maxwell. And even she's got enough pull to make keeping her in jail hazardous to a lot of other high ranking bureaucrats.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

LOL, I had to read the article just to see what his "summer victory tour" was supposed to be.

This guy thinks he should be thrown a parade every day, but apparently that awful bill was supposed to be something he thought people were going to be celebrating?

Anyway, it's such a terrible shame that he's had to experience the most mildest of consequences for raping children.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

What possible victory could he be declaring? Wait, I don't care - let's see the files.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago

There must be a LOT in those files that incriminate him, for him to get this twisted. He's desperately afraid of a special counsel or a leak. Keep up the pressure, nothing else exists right now.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well the Epstein files must be released.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Moreover, ~~Carthage must be destroyed~~ the Epstein files must be released

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well America is furious there's a pedo in the white house

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was known well before the election, they are furious he broke yet another campaign promise. And this promise was important to his base for some strange reason.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

A third of the country has their fingers in their ears the whole time.

But now he's acting extremely guilty about the whole thing. A few are starting to catch on

[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That's great and all but we're still gonna need to see those files. Tick tock trump

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He already got his parade. Or was that parade not good enough?

Maybe throw another one?

Tbh I thought the casual disrespect that all the soldiers who were forced to participate in the parade showed was a fucking masterclass in malicious compliance. And US army grunts and noncoms are absolute savants at malicious compliance when the order is very fucking stupid.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 days ago

Sounds like his victory tour is going about as well as his victory parade.

What victory? The selfish one that nobody cared about except the worst of the republicans that actually harmed many republican constituents?

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Shouldn’t have raped kids.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The Dictator's Dilemma

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Almost makes up for the glee he had in raping children.