Grow some balls and gerrymander blue states. Threats are only viable if they are believable.
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Yeah, we're at the point where the main party platform needs to be:
Complete replacement of our political system
Do what we can till we get the numbers, but the end goal of the Dem party should be a complete overhaul and something like a parliamentaey system.
With that logic, we should be taking every advantage we can.
I think when you get down to it tho, it's not just that Republicans are being biased in redistricting, they were already as biased as they could be legally. What's going on in Texas is that they want to blow past laws against racial bias in redistricting.
Which frankly, blue states wouldn't need to do. They could just be the current Republican level of bias and still capture a lot of seats.
But yeah, ultimately we're past the point of playing fair. We need to try everything that might work. If there's a shot, try it. If it fails it doesn't matter cuz we're trying everything at once.
the end goal of the Dem party should be a complete overhaul and something like a parliamentary system.
On the one hand, absolutely yes. Trump has solid control of one of the political parties, but in general, is a very unpopular politician. Yet our political systems have become so dysfunctional that we run a serious risk of him destroying the rule of law and creating an authoritarian presidency. There's no authoritarian-proof political system, but we can do a lot better than this.
On the other hand, I think any reform that sufficiently addressed our current problems would be the end of the Democratic party as well. Getting a political party to sacrifice itself for the greater good is a tough sell. Not impossible, but I think it would look more like a popular takeover of the Democratic party to be used as a disposable vehicle. The Democratic leadership and their donor class will absolutely be opposed.
The tea party and Trump have shown that seizing a party from its current leadership is not impossible.
The tea party and Trump have shown that seizing a party from its current leadership is not impossible.
It bares mentioning that the Tea Party movement involved a lot of campaign funding is useful idiots by the Koch brothers, with their plan being to shift enough state legislatures under their tent to call a constitutional convention. Trump just happened to come along and up-end it by capturing their voting bloc.
end of the Democratic party as well
It could absolutely stay in a parliamentary system, although it would be better if it fractured.
But yeah, that's been what's stopping it.
To be able to do this, you would need a party in complete control... And willing to tear down the very system they dominate.
Neoliberals would never do that, but they don't control the party anymore.
but I think it would look more like a popular takeover of the Democratic party to be used as a disposable vehicle. The Democratic leadership and their donor class will absolutely be opposed.
They are...
It's not a hypothetical, the donor class got kicked out of DNC leadership about 6 months ago, and since they control the media, they're not telling people it happened. They're hoping enough voters stay ingorant and angry that they skip the Dem presidential primary so a neoliberals can make it to the general.
We can not allow that to happen.
No matter what happens, we need to get as many people to vote in the Dem primary as possible.
Pass the laws to happen the moment another state redistricts before the census not right away.
as long as AIPAC allows it
The subwing of the party who bowed to AIPAC aren't leading it anymore...
If Martin was in AIPACs pocket, Minnesota wouldn't have so many politicians that openly support Palestine.
Martin didn't stop them when he ran Minnesota's party.
There is no logical reason to believe he will change now, the reason he was picked was because what he was able to do there over the last decade.
It's a huge win, and it's frustrating so many people are ignorant of that
I'm not so sure about that
Ken Martin, the new chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said on Thursday that the Democratic Party needs to stand up for the Jewish community and for Israel.
“It is so important right now for our party to stand up with the Jewish community, to continue to stand up for Israel, to continue to stand up for humanity and to not forget who we are as Americans,” Martin said in remarks to a Jewish Democratic Council of America conference in Washington, calling the Jewish community “really, really an important part of our coalition.”
Today, Democratic Majority for Israel President & CEO Mark Mellman released the following statement:
“Congratulations to Ken Martin on his election as the next DNC Chair. DMFI’s leadership spoke with him before his election and he assured us that he supports a strong U.S.-Israel relationship and reminded us that his support for that alliance has been longstanding. Ken will be an excellent leader for our Party and will help Democrats achieve victories across the country.”
nice lies, only 5 members of congress dont take AIPAC money and the DNC betrayed the working class to keep its donors happy. time for new parties or a revolution. they had their chance.
nice lies, only 5 members of congress dont take AIPAC money
Factually untrue, there's at least this many:
When you're talking about 435 congress critters, the difference between 5 and 13 is negligible. :)
Plus, that list combines former members, candidates, and the House and Senate.
Jamaal Bowman - Former Congressman
Cori Bush - Former Congresswoman
Greg Casar - TX35
Pramila Jayapal - WA7
Summer Lee - PA12
AOC - NY14
Ilhan Omar - MN5
Mark Pocan - WI2
Ayanna Pressley - MA7
Delia Ramirez - IL3
Bernie Sanders - Senator VT
Rashida Tlaib - MI12
Nydia Velaquez - NY7
5/435 = 1.15% vs.
10/435 = 2.3%
No real statistical difference there. :)
Bub....
You think every person not taking AIPAC money is on that list?
Even if it was, 3x is a pretty big difference.
But hey, if youre cool with people lying to depress Dem turnout, well, I'm disappointed
I mean, "rejectaipac" should know, right? And donations are public record.
But when you consider the pro-Israel lobby is way, way, WAY bigger than just AIPAC, I'm sure even the people on that list are still getting tainted donations.
My understanding is it's a list of people who made the pledge...
They don't research all 400+ members of Congress and compile a list
Going on that list takes an explicit action, the pledge.
It seems likely there would be a few who don't take the money, but also don't take the pledge.
You telling me you think every politician has a spine?
Anecdotally.... Where the fuck were they when they gerrymandered Tennessee?
Yeah we are a red state.. but hell... 27% of the state voted blue last election. That's not unsurmountable.
But fuck us I guess.
The grassroots-led protests against the t-bag drew many thousands. The DNC-led protests will pull maybe twenty people. Stay out of this, DNC. You've already proven that you're ineffective.
Sorry Dems, you've clearly proven how spineless and useless y'all function.
Our neighborhood bake sale/yard sale lady that organizes the yearly Big sale gets things done better.