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EQ'ing that bass in is effortless. Got a 4.4mm cable for them with a nice braid.

I do gaming with them and it just feels so freaking wide.

I'm a percussion guy. Drums and intricate percussive ellements, in music, sound blissful.

Try listening to Dinossaur - OTR Remix, close your eyes and have fun.

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[–] jeksein@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What DAC & Amp do you have to run those drivers?

[–] skoold1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

If you bother with DAC and amp while listening to spotify 192 kbps may god help you.

[–] LostInElysiium@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Even an Apple dongle is a dacamp and sounds considerably less noisy than most built in DACs in Laptops and windows PC's, no matter if Spotify or not.

[–] jeksein@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol i meant what is his AMP & DAC he's using to power his hifimans correctly.

Not the kilobits of a music lmfao

[–] SDfrom64@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I can't hear the difference between lossless and 160kbps opus, 192kbps is good enough.

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[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I run them off of a iFi Hip Dac 2 out of the 4.4 balanced output.

[–] hello_2221@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Could these be run straight off a PC or an apple dongle or not?

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I'm going to level with you.

A Dongle is very capable of getting them to a nice volume.
But if you want to play with EQ, you do need a better source.
The dynamics also scale with a better source.

I do have a dongle and it drives them nicely (at least for what it is)

[–] Corgerus@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yeah the HE400se can sound anemic for lack of a better term on a poor amplifier. What I use as a poor source to test a headphone is the 3.5mm output of my Xbox One X controller. The bass sounded a little strange and fell off very fast. 3/4 volume to be listenable. I do use them on my iFi Zen DAC via 4.4mm and it works wonders. I did try them on the unbalanced output but there's barely any difference if I can even say, and it's quieter compared to balanced but all that needs is more on the volume knob.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Regarding your Zen DAC, I have the same experience with my Hip Dac 2.
The 3.5 output drives them nicely already.

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[–] SeanDeLeir@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

straight up no, don't do it. you'll hear sound but it ain't gonna be enough. it'll feel forced and someone I read said it'll be "tunog multo" (ghostlike)

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[–] azarashee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They've been my first pair of planars and while I can't use them for longer sessions due to their weight and the imo uncomfortable headband, I enjoy them a lot.

[–] Senior_Brief8311@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If you live in the UK try this out:

https://youtu.be/RFbya-CPNu8?si=8Tzc9hZnapFe-bvK

I bought it for my Edition XS and can now wear them for hours without the band irritating.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I concede ... I have huge afro so the headband isn't as much of a big deal to me. But I get you.

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[–] hatlad43@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

idk man, these stop me buying more expensive cans tbh

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've started having classes at a studio. I tried the HD 600 ... REFERENCE.

I didn't like them as much as my HE400se ... it's uncanny.

[–] Destruckhu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wish i could've enjoyed them more than i did. Mine came with a channel imbalance issue and stopped working. Some friends also said my copy didn't sound right from the start...

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That's a real shame ... Saddly the QC isn't to a solid standart yet.
Though people are reporting the QC getting better.

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[–] superglue_chute115@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This post inspired me to make a post about how bad Spotify is: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/boNNNl3QYc

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Here's Andrew from The Headphone Show testing the HE-1 with spotify lol ...

[–] Nephurus@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok , down the rabbit hole we go .

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

surprisingly shallow as soon as you compare this set to other ones.

I failed to mention this but the HE400se is solely responsible for making me sell my Sony WH-1000XM4 ... and I loved that set.

I have a set of Linkbuds S for ANC and that's all I need in that front.

I pair this with my AKG K240 mkii and it feels more than enough for me ... for now lmao.

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[–] Emotional-Studio-415@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Get a BJ2 from Aura

[–] Hebolo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. Vertical integration (they own the factories) and direct access to cheaper labor in China with no middleman.
  2. They have a higher QC threshold (they throw out fewer potentially defective units off the line, which means every one that goes out is cheaper) and not great build quality (cheaper construction).
[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That reality check has already been given to me by another comment ...
But yeah, thank you for clarifying!

[–] Hebolo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Not meant to be a reality check, just clarification. I think they are cool, especially for the sale price (which is insane).

[–] MostPatientGamer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm having the same epiphany now that there's been an EQ profile uploaded for the DT770 32 ohm version (pleather pads) on the Qudelix. It's insane how good they sound EQed to Harman. I was really surprised because I don't generally EQ my other pairs to Harman.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've transitioned from harman to keeping the set's identitiy, while adjusting a few things.

That said, harman sounds great. Specially on the DT770.
I tried a friend's set and they're pretty good as well. Was thinking of getting them for christmas but decided to go with another set.

Loved the DT770s tho!! Amazing set!

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[–] Chuu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The dirty secret is that it's not hard to make headphones that sound good. I'd be curious on cheap planars how much of the cost is the drivers and how much is everything else.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The original came with a really bad cable.
Later versions came with a nicer one (the one I have)
It's stuff like that ...

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[–] Puzzleheaded_Wind433@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Currently using these with an ifi DAC it’s bliss

[–] ScaryfatkidGT@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I remember when the HE400’s first came out at $400

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[–] solidtitanium@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are interesting. Run a 20hz-20khz test tone sweep. If you got a pair that does not rattle, consider yourself very lucky.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

where can I do that test?

[–] PapaOneInch@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The hex4 is basically the same model but all black. Love my pair! Good stuff

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[–] Sirwompus@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] peanhut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I loved mine, right up until one driver stopped working for no reason. It costs $70 to get a replacement from HiFiman.

Don't mess with the inside of the cup (magnets), they're thin and break really easily.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've seen many posts about it. I keep them inside the box with the support for safe keeping.

Can't be too cautious.

[–] creamyranchboy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've been rocking the HE-400i which is a near identical variant that I believe was discontinued. Just can't believe the level of quality you can get for just $109 these days

Just curious what software do you use to EQ?

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[–] AsianAntwan@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m absolutely in love with the HE400se’s. Bought them used off with a balanced cable EBay for $75 and it’s been my favorite headphone purchase so far, especially coming from using the SHP9500. I run them EQ’d off the FiiO BTR3K, and the fixed graphic bands are enough to really elevate the bass dynamics. And it takes EQ much better than the SHP9500.

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[–] hellotanjent@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same setup here man, they rock. I've shelled out $$$$ on headphones over the years and these are my fave.

Get you a Moondrop Dawn Pro and you'll be in double-heaven.

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[–] tubularfool@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Because they are made with cheap components and materials by indentured workers to indifferent levels of QC?

[–] paloaltothrowaway@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Indentured workers? You mean the people who are part of the supply chain of pretty much any brand, chifi or not?

[–] tubularfool@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
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[–] jonathan1511@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Your phone is more than likely made by child labor.

[–] tubularfool@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Very likely involved at one or more components of the total supply chain, yes.

If not the main construction, then in the gathering or the processing of the resources and materials that go into the end product.

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[–] Dentedaphid7@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I've tried all kinds of headphones, they all just broke and yellow stuff exposed out of it.

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[–] 1maxwedge426@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Probably around $200 a week in U.S. dollars working 50 to 60 hours.

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