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EQ'ing that bass in is effortless. Got a 4.4mm cable for them with a nice braid.

I do gaming with them and it just feels so freaking wide.

I'm a percussion guy. Drums and intricate percussive ellements, in music, sound blissful.

Try listening to Dinossaur - OTR Remix, close your eyes and have fun.

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[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm going to level with you.

A Dongle is very capable of getting them to a nice volume.
But if you want to play with EQ, you do need a better source.
The dynamics also scale with a better source.

I do have a dongle and it drives them nicely (at least for what it is)

[–] Left_Membership2780@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello, I just got them a couple of hours ago. May 2021 mfg so got the white braided cable which I'm told are useless. Will buy better cables after 1 Dec when I get my salary lol. Complete newbie to this. Tried it on my ROG Strix laptop. Even at full volume, it's like 20 for my Razer Blackshark V2 usb. They seriously need something to push them. So I think I'll get the balanced cable to see if they're better. Then get a dac/amp like a Dawn Pro or Fiio Ka13. Regarding eq for laptop, I tried installing Equalizer APO, somehow its not installing, after complete installation, and restart, it still doesnt show any where, i tick marked all the audio options that I want the APO for. Strange. Any other laptop eq that would be good for the HE400se?

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apo is the eq software. But you need the GUI. For that you have to install Peace gui.

This 2 softwares are a combo.

Only then will you be able to eq to your hearts content.

The moondrop Dawn pro should be plenty.

If you want to get my balanced cable just tell me and I'll send you the Aliexpress link.

[–] Left_Membership2780@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks a ton! I was able to eq according to Oratory's eq. Can't find too much of a difference for now, but will wait for dac amp and maybe then I'll notice the difference.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the negative pre amp lowers the volume so you need more juice to get them going.

[–] Corgerus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah the HE400se can sound anemic for lack of a better term on a poor amplifier. What I use as a poor source to test a headphone is the 3.5mm output of my Xbox One X controller. The bass sounded a little strange and fell off very fast. 3/4 volume to be listenable. I do use them on my iFi Zen DAC via 4.4mm and it works wonders. I did try them on the unbalanced output but there's barely any difference if I can even say, and it's quieter compared to balanced but all that needs is more on the volume knob.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Regarding your Zen DAC, I have the same experience with my Hip Dac 2.
The 3.5 output drives them nicely already.

[–] Jonken90@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comparing a xbox controller to a dongle seems kinda odd though. I have not seen any testing done on its amp or dac capabilities, but I can almost bet on that they didn't bother to include a decent dac in them compared to even the shittiest phone dongles haha.

[–] Corgerus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't comparing them to a dongle. I use it for kicks to see how much a source matters for headphones. Not the best testing method though.

[–] Jonken90@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry about that. Clearly I read it wrong. But yeah the source will matter hehe 😅

[–] VladimirHearway@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey man, what are some resources that I can read more from on this topic? Specifically, how different DAC/Amps affect sound from a technical perspective.

[–] Elpreto2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's so subjective in some areas that there isn't a "centralised" data base or resource channel for this kinda stuff.

I get my bearing from reddit (not too much tho), head-fi, a few reviewers such as Resolve from The Headphone Show, Crinacle, and a few others.

I can't get a neat unanimous answer on DACs/Amps anywhere.

For me is just searching and getting a grasp of what the majority have to say about the subject.

Though I'm not best person to ask about these things.

You can try to join the Headphones Show discord and ask Resolve himself.

He's usually prone to conversation.