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Well, they may like the attention and validation it brings. I knew someone who was asexual that had a lot of dotcom money. He loved to go to Vegas and gamble. He knew the house was stacked against him. He knew that the girls who sat on his lap only liked him for his money. He still loved the attention he got when he tipped big. I saw him tip a waiter $200 on a $150 meal. He LOVED it. And why?

"I used to be poor. I was a nobody. Now I make people happy with my money, and I feel good about myself."

Can't beat that.

It's always been this way and yes they do.

In the 50's, women artists were literally expected to hide their partners. Dolly Parton famously got married against the wishes of her managers/producers, because she was a bad bitch who wasn't going to be pushed around and denied her own life. She was a rarity at the time.

The number of OF models who have boyfriends who never appear on cam is high. This isn't new for women in porn, this has pretty much how it has always operated. Men don't like their fantasy being destroyed by pesky details like a boyfriend.

In Kpop its definitely still a thing, and it seems like the young male fans flip the fuck out when they find out one of the women they're idolizing already has a boyfriend.

It's capitalism, baby. It teaches young men that human relationships are a financial transaction and nothing more. They absolutely do think the money they spend means something, even if they aren't an outright Incel.

Many of them will end up furious eventually, once it becomes clear they will never make it anywhere with this woman.

*shrugs

I've thought about it. It's tempting because it's simple. When you spend time and energy on your wife and she doesn't give anything back, it's very lonely. A cam girl is simple. Money goes in, attention comes out. It's not exactly what I want but it's got a higher success rate that what I've got now.

Quite a lot of the people that donate money to camgirls/OnlyFans models have learning difficulties. My special needs brother-in-law gets disability allowance from the state every month because he is too disabled to work and still managed to rack up a 4000 pound debt giving money to these "content creators".

I'm sure many have that fantasy. I'd guess that others understand that it's just a tease, and have enough disposable income that they don't care. Same as strip clubs.

Grant Amato shot his father, mother, and brother Cody in the head at their home in Seminole County, Florida, while attempting to stage it as a murder-suicide committed by his brother before fleeing the residence.

Before the murders occurred, Amato had developed an infatuation with Bulgarian model and cam girl Silviya Ventsislavova (Bulgarian: Силвия Венциславова), who went by the alias "Silvie" online. Amato used some of his father's and brother's money that amounted to $200,000 to pay to attend her webcam sessions.

I'm not sure how that counts but it does add texture to the conversation.

I've seen folks do the same with people who stream games.

An acknowledgement of your own existence is a powerful thing. I get it.

They might think that, and they might be right. There have been multiple accounts from sec workers who feel friendly to their clients.

Think about any place you go regularly: you might have a friendly relationship with the cashier/waiter/barista/bartender/whoever. That relationship only exists because you are a customer, but that doesn’t mean they don’t feel genuinely friendly to you. When I’ve worked in service jobs, there were plenty of people I only interacted with because I had to, and there were a handful of people I genuinely liked seeing. Just because someone is selling images of their naked body and a sense of intimacy doesn’t mean the dynamic is fundamentally different on their side. For the clients, there is often a misunderstanding of what the boundaries are, which is why many sex workers are extremely direct with people.

They are lonely and desperate for any kind of interaction with another human. Because sex work is illegal and dangerous, it creates a market for this kind of stuff. It's sad. People need attention, touch, and love from other humans as much as they need food and water. But many people are unattractive and/or socially inept... but do have some money. And society is largely cruel and heartless towards outsiders. It's hard for most to accept, but many factors outside of a person's control can force them into a lonely life of rejection and non-acceptance by average folks. People find all kinds of things to fill these voids. Paying cam models is just one of many coping mechanisms, and maybe not as self-destructive as drugs, booze, food, etc.

I don’t think the type of person that gives cam girls tons of money is self-aware enough to realize the model doesn’t care if they are still breathing 10 minutes after the money hits their account.

A lot of it is buying the illusion/experience. They are helping that girl get back into veterinary school or are virtually rubbing her clit by making panties vibrate or whatever.

Also, it is generally not the same whale every night. Sometimes it is, but most models have a set of regulars.

And the other aspect to remember is the good old audience plant. Think of it like starting a hype train on twitch or getting the meter most of the way to the exposed titties goal or whatever. The idea is a friend or site employee uses cheap tokens to encourage others to use real ones.

I've got a friend who's into strip clubs, attempted to get me into them. They're basically thinly veiled brothels. He absolutely believes that the women are into him. 100%

I once signed up to an only fans I fancied just to see what the hubbub was all about. I paid my monthly fee which was like 10 or 11 bucks. I had access to her whole catalog including live shows. I managed to catch one of those live shows and by the end of it, only about 30 minutes long, she managed to get 800 bucks in tips.

People were tipping her 200 300 hundreds bucks at a time as she diddled her self with various implements.

Insanity. There is literally limitless free porn in this genre out there. There is absolutely no reason to pay for any of this.

And yet... There you have it. This woman made close to 1000 dollars for doing something she'd probably do anyway.

I assume it’s a form of the buzzword/phrase “parasocial relationship” and some if not most do actually think they have a chance. No real idea, but you can definitely see it even on twitch with female viewers and their rich viewers throwing money at them

Do people who buy lotto tickets expect to become billionaires? Do high school athletes sacrifice their bodies and their futures to some day get their shot to go pro? Do artists starve while hoping to one day be discovered and become famous?

Hope is an irrational, self-destructive concept, reinforced by the fact that nobody who ever became one of the lucky few gave up because the odds were against them.

My only comment would be "dream bigger, maybe."

Parasocial relationships works both ways. Of course you have exceptions and it depend on the individual, but they usually like each others.

I hope not. But many of them probably do think the model "likes" them. And I assume in most situations the model is kind to the customer. And that is all it takes with some lonely guys.

I knew someone years ago that went on a couple dates with some girl and was just DEVASTATED when she broke up with him. Like ugly crying about how "perfect" she was. There are plenty of unloved guys around who are pretty desparate for anything that even looks like a relationship.

I doubt most do. I haven't but I get it. Someone listens to you and talks nicely to you for a few minutes can be pretty appealing.

I like spending my money on beautiful women. Personally this is something I like to do in person, for someone I actually know. I guess I can kind of see how somebody might fulfil a similar drive virtually, but it seems very odd to me.

Parasocial relationships are very real.

Watch this Korean drama TV show Mask Girl https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26258200/ to find out. It's a pretty good TV series.

I think it depends. Sometimes they are unaware that the model doesn't like them, sometimes they are aware, other times the model does like them and actually gets to know them. Like for example, there have been cases of fans actually ending up in relationships with cam models, or Twitch streamers dating their moderators or top donors, etc. That's generally quite rare though of course but it does happen. I think a lot of guys are just lonely and like the attention it brings.

This question seems no different than asking a pro wrestling fan, if they think the matches are real, and the winners are the best at actually wrestling. It is completely, ignorantly, condescending of the complex reality of the situation, and relationship between the viewers and performers.

Let's describe the same situation with different participants. This will be you and one of your favorite actors. Let's leave sex and romance entirely out of it. You have to pick someone who's sex and gender you aren't attracted to. You have the chance to talk to them over zoom for an hour every day, because your paying them.

You can talk about anything you want. The movies they were in, the characters they played, the costars and directors they worked with. You can even talk to them about your own acting, or a script you're working on. You could even completely nerd out and ask them to perform it with you. This fanfic scene that you wrote specifically for the two of you. Would you believe that they meant and felt, all the things you wrote for them to say? Of course not! That's insane! Is it still fun to play a private scene with your favorite actor? Of course it is.

Who wouldn't want to play their own version of the No Country for Old Men scene where the gas station attendant unknowingly faces off against Anton Chigurh? "Well if I'm standin' to win everythin'... Wha'da you stand to loose?" I would love to work out different ways that scene could go with Javier Bardem. That would be so fun!

EDIT: That's only one of the many kinds of ways these relationships can work.

Another is the provider angle. A guy might base his self worth on his ability to financially provid for a wife and family. Kind of a toxic notion yes. But one that's millennia old, and still very real all around the world. For one reason or another he has lots of means to be a provider, but no family to provide for. In the product these women offer, he has a very real way of fulfilling that role.