Android

I'm probably going to have get a separate phone for work, need a few apps that I don't foresee working on a Linux phone anytime soon.

"The apps don't work on my phone" won't fly as an excuse lol, and I like my job most days.

I haven't fully researched that topic yet but should I be safe with e/os?

I'll stay on GrapheneOS as long as possible. And if it stops, I'll get a Linux phone.

I've been looking into pure Linux Phones like Ubuntu touch and the Kali Mobile thing. Shame that its limited to hardware that I can't find here

I sideload two apps and when I can't use them anymore is when I can't trust android. One of them is package disabler pro. I use it to keep androids bloat and spyware shutdown.

Wait and see, then panic if affected.

I've been using LineageOS for years, and have been planning for my next phone to be a used Pixel running GrapheneOS. While this announcement from Google sucks shit, it won't affect me I don't think. More worrying are the other changes in the pipeline that would stop development of GrapheneOS. I am dying for a working Linux phone.

Planning to become a primary iphone user with a PostmarketOS side phone. Want I want in the future is that if I'm using Android apps, it's through Waydroid or Android Translation layer. Then hopefully in my lifetime I see non-Android Linux become popular. Or a non-commercial organization take lead on an Android fork that gets significant adoption

PinePhone?

What about Aurora Store and F-Droid?

gonna stop buying ARM based devices until they figure their FOSS shit out to the extent x86 had in 2022

It affects only people using factory roms and google play services. I don't remember the last time I used a factory rom, I've use microg for nearly a decade, (and I'm a mod of !microg@discuss.tchncs.de) and I'm not planning to change this workflow even when I will replace my phone, so I'm pretty sure I'm not affected at all.

Wait until it affects me. Just like when I ditched Chrome. Just like when I ditched Windows. I used Vanced long after they were stopped, didn't switch to ReVanced until Vanced literally could not play anymore. I'm the latest adopter, for sure. By the time I make a change, the path of what I want to do has been well-tread by others.

What are you talking about a ban on sideloading?

I am hoping, that I can switch to a Fairphone with a custom ROM til next year. If I can't get the money for it until then, I Am just hoping that it will be implemented through an android Update, because in that case it won't affect me, since I Am already stuck on Android 11 or so.

Fairphone makes an effort to open source all code including device trees and encourages the developement of custom roms and alternative oses like Linux mobile. So I'll just switch to a Fairphone with a custom ROM.

I won't switch to mobile linux though since I don't want to go back to an unsandboxed environment.

I think the only thing I sideload is AdGuard, and they're already verified. So it shouldn't really affect me.

I'm still against it on principal.

My phone only updates until Jan 2026 so I'll be fine. I reckon they'll allow installing via adb still as otherwise people won't be able to develop new android apps

Wait and see. The only reason for buying any hardware is to run on it the software I want to use.

chuckles nervously in GrapheneOS

This seems like an ideal opportunity for samsung to fork android.

Well, I don't like throwing away devices I can still do something with, so I'm going to keep using the android devices I have until they stop working. After that, I'm not actually sure. I don't want to completely give up on mobile gaming because I do like having an easy way to play games away from home, but I haven't found a good alternative yet. Mobile Linux devices either aren't worth their price or, if they are, I have no way to purchase them.

I would just install a mobile Linux distro onto newer android devices but on top of the fact that you can't just install Linux onto android devices like you can on PCs, I've heard that, at least with some manufactures, that's soon to be impossible as well.

The only reason I'm on a Google rom is because I can't get confirmation that I can cast Netflix to a Chromecast with microG. It's the only Google ecosystem thing that matters to me. If they try to break my phone then I finally get to get over that hump, no loss. Almost everything in my phone is F-Droid ("side-loaded" is such a loaded phrase)

I'm also hopeful that this move will get struck down given the recent anti competitive practices cases they've lost.

SailfishOS on a Jolla phone.

Custom roms. Support them all

I'm probably being too optimistic, but they've gotta have a switch in dev settings to disable this check, right? I really hope they're not truly, full stop, not allowing you to side load apps that don't meet this stupid requirement.

FFS they just had that awful Pixel 10 launch event where they talked about Android being open and what not.

I have no plans to make a shift away from Android based purely on this. I already maintain fairly platform agnostic software and service usage patterns just for these kinds of reasons. So just calling smartphones "done" as an active interest and just using whatever is the cheapest thing that gets the job done for as long as possible is not a very hard thing for me to do if it comes to that.

I'll need to see what the fuck their answer for personal installs are....my pixel 10 comes in ~~tomorrow~~ THIS WEEKEND (ugh) so by the time I run the wheels off of it, I will know if I'm staying on android or moving to iOS and doing a $99 developer cert

At least apple isn't fucking judging what you sideload

Edit: cert on android is cheaper.....if I'm forced to go that route I'll stick with Google