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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 146 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The party of "patriotism" everyone. This is their guy... the same guy whose defense for trying to overthrow the government and install himself as dictator is "I never said I swore an oath to uphold the constitution"

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not just that, but the ones for whom the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution are the beginning, middle, and end of their entire personal identity. They have a section of the Constitution tatooed on their fucking bodies, and they still support a man who would just as soon use the damned thing as toilet paper.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If Trump can argue the technicality that he never specifically said "support", we can argue ths technicality that the 2nd doesn't specifically say "guns".

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It says the right to "bear arms." So if I want to graft a pair of cybernetically enhanced black bear arms to my body, I should have the right to do so! (As part of a well organized Bear Arm Militia, of course.)

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

"So really it's just the right to have bare arms, sleeveless shirts are A-OK!"

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Anyone who makes one thing^TM^ their entire raison d'etre is always a little... let's go with off for politeness. But the 2^nd^ Amendment ones are just walking red flags.

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can penis size be negative?

[–] ma11en@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah but the guys who have that problem tend to be way less insecure than this guy

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

The energy sure can

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Second Amendment is so awkwardly worded. You can tell it was initially drafted, then the middle part of the sentence (third line on that guy's back) added in later.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago

The us right wing is entirely the "there must be outgroups to bind and in groups to protect" mindset. Everything else is after the fact justification.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 84 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What a piece of shit. How can anyone support this trash?

[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they too are pieces of shit.

[–] zzzzz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Or dumb. Or not paying attention. Or some combination of the above.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 6 points 11 months ago

they're paying attention to propaganda

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[–] rbhfd@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being ~~brainwashed~~ bombarded on a daily basis with messages of how leftist will take over your country and how Trump will save them

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I am. Still see through it

[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 80 points 11 months ago

"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - H. L. Mencken

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 58 points 11 months ago (3 children)

wait, so does that mean he was never actually president?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 21 points 11 months ago

I guess his supreme court nomination are void then. Nice.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Worse than that, he wants the job again, and he's on his way to being the Republican nominee.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

He's going to win and he's going to finish the job of dismantling the United States of America. He's quite open about it.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the oath that military folks take actually has the word "support" in it, but the one the president takes says "preserve, protect and defend."

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Aren't they specific types of support?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The military one is:

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

So that one specifically says "support."

The 14th amendment says:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

He's trying to argue that since the presidential oath doesn't use that word, and that word is specifically used in the 14th amendment, it didn't apply to him.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

They are different according to them. They're trying to find loopholes.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump... the sovereign citizen of world leaders.

[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rockyrikoko@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, he is bought by foreign influence and has discovered a way to monetize dismantling the United States

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Can be both.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

When are we going to collectively decide to excise the cancer that is Christian Conservatism in the U.S.?

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All of these morons have happened before and all of these morons will happen again.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

yeah, sadly just a little history repeating. Now we just see which year we're about to replay

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Hopefully soon. Republicans have been losing big because of abortion, and they're incapable of controlling the narrative because the lunatics are running the asylum.

Generational change was happening slowly, and then the Republican conspiracy theories with COVID accelerated it as elderly red voters died who could otherwise lived. Abortion being overturned has lit a fire in young people to actually get to the polls too. Going all in on Trump has also irreparably tainted the party for upper middle class who'd otherwise vote for him.

I don't know if the history books will say it was 2020, 2022, 2024, or 2028, but I'm very hopeful that sometime this decade will be when American conservativism is rendered unviable. We just need one more big push.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

His supporters should be really mad about this. Generally they are the ones that invoke the Constitution anytime their lifestyle is inconvenienced.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Yeah but everything they do and say is in bad faith.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When “Donald Trump says….”

What follows is absolute bullshit.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

And Donald Trump said ….

Nothing, you idiots, Donald Trump’s dead, he’s locked in my basement.

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[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Very rarely, Trump is right accidentally. For example, recently he said that the true threat to America is coming from within. He meant the left, but he was accidentally right. The real threat is coming from within the US. To see it, though, Trump just needs to look in a mirror or look at the people attending his rallies.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

His personality disorders renders him incapable of supporting the Constitution.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Trump feels he is more important than it.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He probably had his fingers crossed and his ears stuffed with gold cheese puffs

[–] rifugee@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In the picture of him swearing an oath to support the constitution, he has a hand on the bible and another raised, so he must have been crossing his toes. That totally counts...in kindergarten.

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[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ever think about how if Bill Clinton had called the mother of a recently KIA marine without knowing his name we would still be hearing about it?

I haven't heard about that since the month it happened.

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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics MAGA people will do when they get asked about this.

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