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Golden state owned the 14th pick and the 7th pick in the 2021 NBA draft. They selected Kuminga 7th overall. The 8th pick? Franz Wanger. They selected Moses Moody with the 14th pick. Two picks later Alperen Sengun was drafted. In 2020 they selected Wiseman over the likes of Lamelo. Not saying they’re stupid for drafting who they did because at the time it had merit. I’m just pointing to the fact that they could’ve had those players to help with this period but instead set themselves (probably) pretty far back with Kuminga, Moody, and not even wiseman anymore.

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[–] tsunamisurfer35@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Applying hindsight to draft choices is pointless.

Every team has wins and losses in the draft ledger.

[–] RiverOfKeys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The wiseman pick was unfortunate, but the other two are pretty much about as good as you can reasonably ask from those draft spots. Most lottery teams technically could've had an insane roster with the power of hindsight

[–] Jonathank92@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Wow so you’re saying they should’ve simply never missed on a draft pick. Groundbreaking

[–] Pei_area@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bob Myers was actually not a good drafter.

[–] AlHorfordHighlights@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why did the Warriors simply not use a time machine to figure out which players would be good in the draft? Are they stupid?

[–] Tom_Saltzman@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You can do this with every franchise. It's not news that evaluating talent for the draft is extremely difficult.

[–] shazam482@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is such a goofy thread

[–] FeminismIsTheBestIsm@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The bigger mistake was passing up on Haliburton

[–] StubbornKindOfFellow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Between Chris Mullin and Steph Curry, we made the playoffs once, and that was a second round exit that fans still celebrate, because for so long, we had nothing else. I remember wishing they just gave us a winning team. That's all I wanted. I didn't dare ream of a single championship, let alone four. I didn't even dream of a playoff team. I just wanted a winning team. 42 games. I just wanted to win more games than we lost.

I'm willing ride with Curry 'til the day he decides to retire.

[–] Choice-Meeting1143@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Draft is always unpredictable.

Also, A Draftee being successful in one franchise doesn't necessarily mean he will be as good or as great in other franchise.

For ex: Giannis became the player he is now cause of the Bucks Franchise. I am not sure Giannis will be Giannis if he is drafted by teams like Wizards or Hornets.

[–] Timoteo-Tito64@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure they planned on going down with this core. Obviously the missed draft picks hurt, but I don't think they were planning on a Celtics-esque rebuild

[–] AashyLarry@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

2020 draft was horrible for them.

They picked Wiseman over

  • Lamelo
  • Haliburton
  • Maxey
  • Bane
  • Vassell
  • Quickley
[–] bilyl@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

There was so much debate about LaMelo because he would have been a great fit, but everyone was always emphasizing BPA. Maybe this is revisionist but I don’t recall there being that many analytics showing that was the case for Wiseman.

[–] ALBERTSONSENGINEER@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They're a dynasty, they already won another ring despite this. They already won drafting with Curry, Thompson, and Green. You can't win them all.

[–] awntawn@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

When you count up every team's whiffs throughout history you realize that none of this shit is a science.

The dilemma Warriors fans are facing is that when you try to attribute whiffing on Wiseman, Kuminga, and Moody as simply bad luck, you also have to start to admit that hitting on Steph, Klay, and Draymond was hugely a biproduct of good luck.

[–] the_greasy_one@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Their decline could be graceful too... they may even win another chip. People need to stop overreacting to small things happening today and assuming they can see what will be in a few years.

[–] Charlie_Steve@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always hated this kind of retroactive judging. Every team in the league theoretically could have drafted Jokic, that’s just how it goes.

[–] LogDogan4@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Nuggets skipped on Jokic that draft... twice.

[–] herejusttolooksee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think the point you’re making is not really about who could’ve been drafted, but instead that who we did draft won’t carry us into the future. That they’re not superstar level talent.

Well, yes, we whiffed on our #2 selection, and it’s hard to find a superstar with picks 7 and below otherwise. That Wiseman draft will haunt us, but nothing we can do now.

I love JK, but doesn’t seem to understand the flow of the game. Most is going to be an excellent 3nD role player. TJD and Podz may turn into serviceable starters. JP fell off and is now gone.

Steph, Klay, and Dray are the last good draft choices we made. Loon is loved but isn’t a superstar. JP was the right draft choice, helped us win a chip, so no regrets there, but fell off.

We don’t have a young core. A Spur’s Kawhi. We were looking to JK to be that player, but he’s not him.

Like most teams, we’ll have to rebuild at some point, and nail it in the draft.

With all the luxury apron penalties now, super teams will be harder to come by, even if home grown.