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Developing: Kirk shooting suspect is in state custody, NBC News confirms (www.msnbc.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Nougat@fedia.io to c/news@lemmy.world

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The Charlie Kirk shooting suspect is in state custody, NBC News confirms.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"I hope he's going to be found guilty, I would imagine, and I hope he gets the death penalty"

-Trump

How pathetic a world we live in where the POTUS wants the state to kill people and is proudly quoted about it more than once in his lifetime. I get that sometimes we want people to die. Trump's death will be gleefully celebrated worldwide, and I will join.

But there's just something so insidious about people in power wanting the government to kill people THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN PROVEN GUILTY OF ANYTHING. Trump campaigning for the death penalty for Central Park Five should've been enough to disqualify him from ever being seen as a decent person. And yet millions ignore or agree with his sentiments of executing first and asking questions later. I cannot even fathom that anyone can fully think through the death penalty and still support it. Not even for the proven-guilty. Because there's almost always some possibility of error. How can anyone support laws that could ever possibly lead to the state murdering an innocent person? Like, ever, one time? What a sick world.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a whole lot of real good reasons to be against capital punishment. Little t promoting it is just one more.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I agree. It's a very rare thing that Trump ever supports, does, says, or likes a thing that isn't revolting. Any time an exception to that rule seems to come to light, I have to question if I have a wrong/horrible belief. He's just such a consistently shitty person that it's hard to fathom.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really sure which part of “Lock her up” implied “..after due process and a conviction by a trial of her peers” so this shouldn’t really be too surprising.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you read my comment, you'll find no hint of surprise that Trump himself would say this. In fact I reference another time he did this, in the 80s.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Shit, they used to give people medals for shooting Nazis.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 months ago

Very telling that no one is talking about his skin color or ethnicity

If he had been black, that detail would have been repeated endlessly ... almost joyfully.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Quite possibly they captured the kid from the stairwell photos, but I'm not convinced yet he's the shooter. Notably, no gun in the photo and no way a long rifle fits in that backpack.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I thought they’d already found the gun left behind?

EDIT: Oh! Were these photos before the shooting? I assumed they were from after.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The theory is that the rifle was disassembled to fit in a backpack. This is what Ear Shooter did to get into position. However, Crooks used an AR-15 style rifle, which breaks down into much smaller pieces than an "older model [bolt-action] Mauser 30-06".

I'm going to want to see exactly what rifle it was, what condition it was found in (assembled or not, specifically), before speculating any further.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

EDIT: I should read the whole comment before replying

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah, based on the "cultural messages" thing turning out to be shaky at best, I'm going to exercise patience.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Granted, I'm not familiar with how a Mauser .30-06 breaks down either, my experience with that caliber is my grand-dad's Remington 721 that I inherited.

But on that gun, even if you remove the barrel, the wood stock aint fitting in a backpack.

(721 is super dangerous too! Can fire without touching the trigger. Mine has been fixed:

https://youtu.be/NlzoMqtDUxs#t=3m54s)

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm withholding my opinion on the breakdown capability until there's sufficient information, even if that's the "official theory". I mean, even if the stock was cut down, it looks like the shortest barrel would have been 22 inches, but an "older" one looks like it would more likely have a 24 inch barrel. The rifle is reported to have been scoped, so it could have been cut short, no need for the front sight.

But someone who'd planned that well ... would they have just left it in the woods? Instead of continuing to carry it with them still hidden in the backpack?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

These threads always degrade into gun nuts listing off facts about gun models no one cares about and are inrrelevant.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago

These are material facts. If you find them "inrrelevant", .ml is that way -->

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

Learning is free. There's a minimize button for a reason.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

The guy apparently confessed to his dad--who is a cop--and his dad turned him in.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago

Looks like this turned out to be MAGAt on MAGAt action. As expected.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This person is in state custody at the moment. Of course there will be an interesting push and pull as there often is between federal and state authorities about who charges first and whether there are federal charges warranted here.

What would federal charges be?

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anything they want? They're sending people to concentration camps in Africa with no due process. I wouldn't expect anything less than trumped up charges and a farce of a trial. At this point, they might just go full mask off and just execute the guy.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna guess that they'll do exactly what Kirk himself wanted: Make it a public execution and encourage parents to bring their kids to watch. They won't waste this opportunity to normalize public punishments for people who dare to speak out against hatred, bigotry, intolorance, and cruelty. Empathy cannot exist under fascism.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In this economy? Anything they want them to be.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I meant which charges that they could get a grand jury to indict on…

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

It's true that this administration has failed to get many grand juries to indict, but I'm sure they will completely avoid the topic of jurisdiction.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 12 points 2 months ago

For some reason this "news report" lemants the fact that we don't use the same fascist mass surveillance and image recognition technology that the Chinese Communist Party uses in China. Glossing over the fact that it wasn't needed to find the suspect. Also glossing over all the issues that would come with the adoption of such tools such as false positives and racial bias.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

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