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1/4 of the starting QBs have had serious injuries so its worth the money.

Can they burn MetLife Stadium to the ground too?

r/NFL won't like this but there is no good answer here.

Grass is not a cure all - it reduces certain types of injuries but it increases the chance of other types of injuries. And the condition of the grass also matters.

Maybe I'm also biased as a Seahawks fan, who knows the graveyard for our players is Glendale, a grass stadium.

Maybe they should take a good look at betting lines vs. refs.

I mow my lawn occasionally. I’m totally qualified and I applied.

Did Ed Mangan quit? He’s the Director responsible for the ice rink at last year’s SB in Phoenix. George Toma put him on blast after the game.

I nominate Nick Bosa.

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"Grass good, use grass."

If they don't issue a report entitled "The grass isn't always greener", I'm going to be so mad

I want Goodell Honey-I-Shrunk-the-Kids'd, thrown onto a turf-and-grass checkerboard field, and made to find his way home.

I would watch that show.

They should just have reddit scientists do the study.

And then not do shit

What did we find? CTE

Oh god the ruling is gonna stand because not enough evidence to reverse the call.

That’ll be about as exciting as watching grass grow.

And I will be taking a deep swipe through my ass crack to compare clean hand vs paper.

Grass is expensive. Hard to have grass game-worthy the morning after a Ke$ha concert. Player safety is a secondary concern.

And let's be honest, a stadium purely devoted to one sport that has 8, maybe 9 events per year unless maybe your team doesn't suck and then you get one or two more, is going to have trouble turning a profit.

I understand the cost-saving efforts that a responsible business owner must undergo -but it also clearly demonstrates a clear and total lack of respect or priority for player safety.

Comp?

I think people will be disappointed by this study unless it provides definitive results. Injuries have such a wide scope a a playing surface that is better for lower leg injuries might be worse for something like head injuries.

And it only took 30 years after Wendell Davis.

There is no reason to ban artificial turf. We aren't playing on the OG glorified carpet anymore.

What about referees influencing second half betting lines?

Doesn't everyone already play on turf?

The bears I thought were the last ones to play on pure grass not the genetically altered hybrid that's basically turf

give me that job, it’ll be open and shut.

metlife turf is garbage, force everybody to change to grass. oh no, it costs too much?

you fuckers are multi millionaires, some of you are billionaires. cry me a river about how it costs too much.

Yea, but HOW?

Are they going to offer grants for NFL stadiums that are indoors to do what they do in AZ? Lighting etc?

Better late than never, but something should’ve been done years ago. Players have been complaining about FedEx Field and MetLife for a very long time

There needs to be some sort of standard when it comes to playing surfaces. Way too many career altering injuries have been caused by issues with turf

Big turf says no

Usually you can tell by touching it

I mean, the long term data is already there so

“Yep that’s grass! Oh my god that’s turf! Check complete”

For financial reasons they'll find the same "the cheaper for the owners result is fine" they have in the past, regardless of what other external researchers show.

Damn that honestly sounds like a lot of responsibility for one person

Hopeful that this will lead to improved surfaces and fewer injuries.

Gee thanks!

There's a reason nobody has turf in Football, sorry Soccer.

Nobody seemed to bring up the turf vs grass argument when players were suffering season injuries on grass fields this year.

Turf field = more opportunities for non NFL related events. That's pretty much what it boils down too

“Commissioner, I’ve finalized my report.”

“And?”

“Turns out, converting to grass fields will…”

“Yes? Out with it man!”

“Well, sir, it will cost money.”

“WHAT?!”

“Yessir. But we do believe simple threats to relocate teams will result in the appropriate 100% city and state funding for the conversions so we believe we should get started.”

“Oh, right, of course. Good work. Carry on.”

The NFL has already funded studies that showed the following two results:

1. In terms of only quantity, injuries are vaguely equal when playing on turf vs. grass.
2. In terms of types of injuries, grass sees more "football type" injuries (e.g. contusions, bruises, sprains, fractures, etc.), while turf sees significantly more "ACL-type" injuries with torn or ruptured ligaments.

The safety of turf is real - it's not too different from grass in many areas. But even the NFL has determined that ligament injuries are WAAAAAAAY more likely to happen on turf. That is also a major downside with turf, it's not a perceived weakness of the terrain, it's a REAL weakness of the terrain.

Anecdotal but I tore my ACL three different times on grass. Played two seasons of football on primarily turf and never had an issue. I don’t blame grass, though. I think there were many other factors.

I played (jc) football on turf and can say I absolutely hated it. Especially during the summer during two a days where the field added like 10-15 degrees in an area where temps would reach triple digits. An I play during a time where there wasn’t all these safety protocols and water breaks were more of a reward than mandatory.

Anyway, for me it just felt like playing on concrete with a rubbery carpet on top. Nothing was worst on the football field than a fat man hitting you and then you hitting concrete with a fat man landing on top of you… I can’t imagine what it must feel like to get hit by these monsters in the NFL that weigh 280-300#’s and can run a 4.5-4.8 40-yard dash.

Seriously! At my high school (not even a football school) the turf was so much better than ford fields. Not even close. I know this from doing marching band and marching on both.