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[–] njpc33@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Paid firmware updates are the death knell. But even beside that… $150?!?!

[–] Mo_Coffee_Plz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

…And for $50/month you can unlock an additional 20mp. Lol

[–] andrei-mo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

... but the first thing I unlock is the $100/month unlimited actuations package. It's the best value hands down.

The 200 photos / month package included with the camera is just not enough.

[–] AdministrativeShip2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember to check in every day to receive 10 free shutter pushes.

[–] SgObvious@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m starting to feel a sense of pride and accomplishment already.

[–] Fineus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Shoot and post our loot boxes on your social media to receive FREE collectable skinned menu systems for your mirrorless camera!

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[–] ridiculid@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My prediction is that by 2030, people (not me) will be paying monthly just to use the camera they paid full price for. Subscription based mandatory operating software and or monthly shutter click limit. Or maybe they’ll require a 60$ yearly fee for using non Sony lenses lol. Excited to see the next generation of uniquely creative greed! God has abandoned us lol

[–] samop002@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MasterMike7000@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What the fuck

[–] Anaaatomy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lowkey, I'm fine with this cuz like who needs this function?

[–] ILikeLenexa@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People who need 800 perfectly lined up yearbook photos or employee directory photos.

[–] AngusLynch09@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of people would love this feature. Prints and frames come in all sorts of different ratios, and it's handy to know your composition will sit perfectly within those ratios.

[–] Anaaatomy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You actually make a good point, i would love to try out shooting with wide aspect ratios

[–] platypus1224@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No thank you my a7 II is still going strong

[–] MethodicaL51@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And Sony hates that

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[–] Slarm@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are just two insightful comments on the PetaPixel article:

Allen Mac:

It's likely due to patent issues - patent trolls demanding outrageous loyalties for using their ideas.

Mick:

100%, I guess they’ve got some large corporate client who has asked for this feature, so they’ve done a deal with the patent owners and offered it as the patent licensing fees they wanted, plus development costs. I doubt Sony is making a profit on this feature, they’re doing it to sell more cameras.

That would make a lot of sense. I hope it is the case and not just milking it. On a body that expensive adding upcharged soft/firmware without a good cause is repulsive. Sony took a huge share of the market by dropping FF mirrorless, but with their competitors showing up ready to fight I don't think they can afford to pull this stuff off unless they get into a cabal together...

[–] Omnitographer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A patent makes no sense here, an overlay on a screen is something computers have done for decades. I certainly can't imagine how anyone could have a patent for something done by the bespoke hardware of each camera manufacturer.

[–] Sarkos@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You'd be amazed at the ridiculousness of patents. Apple has a patent for detecting phone numbers in text.

[–] ZeAthenA714@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Meh, every time there's a company that makes a greedy or stupid move there's someone to comment "it's probably because of patents", but it's almost never the case.

Sometimes companies are just greedy.

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[–] Fantastic_Raccoon103@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gimmie a ruler and a sharpie and I'll do it for free

[–] stoneyyay@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yup. Screenprotectors are cheaper than this shit update. Although if Sony hears that you may be forced to use viewfinder if they detect an aftermarket screen guard, and disable your screen

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[–] ctruvu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pre printed gridlined screen protectors should be a thing. not like there are that many different screen sizes to have to account for

There are!! You can get them on Etsy!

[–] LifeWithAdd@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We used thin painters tape on our studio monitors.

[–] GregnantMan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I was like there must be a practical solution for a lot of situations too, but I understand the astonishment.

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[–] firedrakes@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

paid firmware updates... wow

[–] cynicown101@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure Panasonic have done these too. I picked up a G9 a while back and there are paid firmware updates to shoot in log

[–] tristanjorge@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took a page from Atomos’ handbook

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[–] Fineus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And I thought BMW were ridiculous when they offered heated seat functionality for a monthly subscription...

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[–] jncc@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like a reasonable charge for a very niche modification that less than 1% users would ever consider using.

[–] 7LeagueBoots@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone will crack the firmware and offer a hacked version shortly after this rolls out.

[–] qtx@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won't.

If people could hack the firmware of these companies they would've done it by now, but no one has.

Except the old Magic Lantern one from decades ago.

[–] 7LeagueBoots@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s been done for Sony cameras a while back. One of the tools that lets you get into the camera’s firmware is Sony-PMCA-RE. As far as I know this is not the only one either.

It’s not a powerful as a Magic Lantern, but that’s not the point, which is that camera firmware hacks are still going on.

As long as there is a reason and motivation someone will figure it out.

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[–] strouze@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My 6d mk1 with magic lantern could do this.

[–] anonymoooooooose@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They tried this before, and gave up on it.

https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/

BMW had to back down on the heated seat subscription foolishness.

Vote with your wallets, people.

[–] tanilolli@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

$150 for a magic lantern feature from 10 years ago lol

[–] random_fist_bump@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

and so it starts. subscription camera ownership.

Saddest part is some idiots will pay the money.

[–] Kunaak@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, now I know for a fact I will never bother with a Sony camera.

[–] totally_not_a_reply@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck finding a company that doesnt sell certain features.

[–] 3nanda@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How much for the grip warmer?

[–] chndmrl@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sometime next year you need to pay for autofocus. Oops you ran out of credits to focus!

[–] Duckel@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

don't you guys just leave some space then crop and tilt?

[–] LeadPaintPhoto@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A7vii no memory card slots, built in storage, 64gb for $4000, 128gb for extra $20/month , 256gb $30/, 512gb $50. 1tb $100/m Internal memory is 1tb in every body but must pay to use various amounts , failure to pay and camera deletes all stored files down to 64gb.

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[–] bgva@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

r/assholedesign

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