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Well the Bulls almost killed Luol Deng

Lamelo has a good case.

Pistons are much better with Ivey on the court and Cade off, and Ivey isn’t even that good. At some point we have to stop making excuses for Cade. There’s a good chance he’s just not that guy

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Well. JP looked like a rockstar after the playoff performances on the way to a championship. Finding his groove and what not, Poole party, splash brother BS... Then the organization pretty much I ed him out after getting cold cocked by the Dumbass of the league.

Kevin Garnet. Dude is legitimately a top 15 player of all time but almost never gets brought up in those conversations because of how ass and unlucky the TimberWolves franchise is.

Cade has been nothing but inefficient and careless since he's been drafted. He's part of the problem

Cade himself isn’t that good tho lol, I don’t wanna say he’s entering bust territory but he’s definitely way more Wiggins than Anthony Edwards

He was a number 1 pick. He’s suppose to turn the franchise around. He’s insanely inefficient

Not really I never saw him as a star player especially in college. You can tell if a player with hype in college is a star, Brandon Miller is a star.

Anthony Davis

He missed 70 games last year and the team is better with him off the floor this year

There was this guy by the name of Kevin Garnett once

Cade is not a future all nba player and he’s being treated and given the responsibility of a franchise changer. It’s just not a good fit

Hm ill trade Josh Giddey and a first for Cade 🫣

I don't know. He's meh defense and low efficiency offense. I'm not sure he would be a 19-6 point guard with better talent around him. I mean offensively he's a bit like a lot more turnover prone, not near the shot version of Kemba Walker.

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He doesn't strike me like that "great player on a bad team" type of guy... Not Beal his rookie year, Kat his first couple, Devin Booker playing on 20-25 win teams for his first 4 years, even early Trae on bad Atlanta teams.

He's got that feeling of a guy that is being forced to do more than he should be. Kinda early Michael Carter Williams early on. He did stuff yes. But his role was much better suited as taking a step back with a more talented roster.

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Cade's usage rate is 31%. That's higher than Wemby, Trae, Lebron, Dame. He's closer to Jokic than Jaylen Brown. On a decent roster he probably should be in that 18-22% range (Austin Reaves, VanVleet, Marcus Smart, Dinwiddie, Suggs).

Yeah, it probably means instead of 22-7 on 35 minutes a game, he's more like 12-5 on 28 minutes. But I bet he'd start playing better in that role. And probably not be averaging 4.4 turnovers a game either.

Has the team let him down... Sure. But he's also dead last in win shares of the 2021 draft class. He's getting asked to do a lot and he's not able to.

At some point the player is accountable… goes for anybody, not just Cade

I'm biased but so far the Mavs have done a shitty job building around Luka who became an elite talent nearly immediately. Although I do love this past offseason's moves outside of Kyrie.

I love Cade and believe in him, but literally every number one pick gets drafted to a shitty team this isn’t an excuse.

Bojan literally played with the exact same team last season and put up an efficient 22PPG at 63% TS. The fact that Cade is shooting a whole 13% TS worse says a lot about his offensive capabilities at the moment.

Doesn’t mean he can’t get better, but the team isn’t failing him any more than him failing the team.

There are tons of let downs but I think maybe Cade shouldn't have to run the point. I know people don't have time to wait but I don't think it's going to be a big deal for Detroit this season.

Literally one of the top 2 players of all time and the first-stint Cleveland Cavaliers. The only reason it doesn't look completely terrible is that he was good enough to carry their sorry asses to the playoffs/finals.

Case reminds me of Luka