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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 294 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They say they're holding steady, and they are, look at those graphs.

They didn't say they were holding steady at ideal levels.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 109 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It probably costed some 100k just to pay the guy that designed the look and feel of the interface and obviously they had medical advices on the matter (common knowledge really).

The patient is going through merging with a symbionte, most patients (test subjects) died.

Of course they are happy to read anomalous but stable vitals.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think that they paid that much. Most of it is probably just some stock animation that they bought and use, rather than anything specific.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

100 million budget. It's almost a million a minute and you think they slap stock animations for close up plot points and run the risk of having 5% of the audience going "those number are silly wtf am I watching"?

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 days ago

Yes, absolutely. The big bucks are for A-listed actors, executive producers and gigatons of cocaine, not nerd fan service.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

3D effects will get a much bigger fraction of the CGI budget than some random animated chart

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's literally what stock animations exist for lmao

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you're really overestimating how much they'd pay a handful of random Korean guys for a few days of their time.

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 45 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But they did say they were happy they were holding steady. But it doesn't tell us if they wanted it dead or alive.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 52 points 5 days ago (2 children)

TBF you can't get more steady than dead.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I work in 911 dispatch, at my agency our calls are assigned a priority from 1-5, 1 being the most severe, 5 the least

1 and 2 are considered high priority, you're getting all the lights and sirens and everything, 3-5 are low, on the police end of thing a priority 5 is pretty much just us giving information to them, not something they actually need to do anything about, maybe they need to drive by and check on something, and maybe make a call afterwards to to public works or something to have them deal with an exceptionally bad pothole.

On the EMS side of things what that looks like is

1- pretty much what you expect, cardiac arrest, shootings, choking, traumatic amputations, etc.

2- honestly most of the EMS calls we get are a class 2. Things people need to go to the hospital with some urgency, but aren't in immediate danger of expiring on the way there.

3- these are sort of the "you really called 911 about this?" calls. Like, sure, you should probably get this checked out, but you probably could have driven yourself or gotten a friend to take you to an urgent care, it probably could have waited a few hours, and the doctors probably just gonna tell you to take some Tylenol and take it easy for a few days.

4- this is basically psych patients. Physically there's nothing wrong with them, they're just mentally unwell

Which brings us to the point of this rant: class 5- obviously dead people. They can't get any deader, so no real rush. They basically just need someone with some medical training to go out there and go "yep, that's a corpse" and maybe check up on the family member who's having a panic attack over it. Doesn't get much more stable than that.

As a result of this "Class 5" has also entered our jargon as shorthanded for a dead person. So much so that some of our local news stations have picked up on it, if it's a slow news day and they're listening to the scanner fishing for a story and they hear "class 5" they might get a little nosey about it (I have a friend who worked for one who told me that after I started working here)

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

class 5- obviously dead people. They can't get any deader, so no real rush.

Okay, but who am I supposed to call if someone just died in my home? Does the coroner have a non-emergency number for me to call "Hey, my mom just died. If you could send someone out to confirm whenever you have time that would be great."

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (8 children)

It's going to vary a bit by jurisdiction, everywhere handles things a little differently

The coroner's office should have an office number and you can certainly try calling that. It may or may not be staffed overnight or over the weekend and they'll have some sort of on-call procedures in place (in my county, when they don't have anyone in the office, their phones actually come through to us at the dispatch center to have the on-call coroner paged. Generally speaking we don't do that for the general public, just for police, hospitals, etc.)

Whatever funeral home you intend to use may also be able to handle it.

But in general, just call 911. I won't lie, a lot of what happens after that kind of happens in a black box from my perspective, I take the call, hang up and police/fire/EMS go out and do their thing and I get very little follow-up from there. But they have the experience with this kind of thing, they know what steps to take from there.

I also get a decent amount of calls where my callers are kind of clueless about what's going on, it's happened that they tell me the patient is conscious and alert only for the field units to report that they are in fact stiff and cold to the touch and an obvious class 5, and the opposite way around where they're sure someone is dead and when they get out there the person is in fact up and talking and seems to be in perfect health, and of course everything and anything in-between. So it never hurts to have someone go out there to make sure things are actually as they seem. And of course we want to double check to make sure there wasn't anything suspicious about the death as well.

I remember I had a caller one time who had been transferred to us from a nearby county where she was located. She told me her father had just died and she was having trouble getting ahold of her relatives in our county to let them know so she wanted us to go try to make contact with them for her (this would be about a priority 4 BTW, emergency and non-emergency calls all get handled through our central dispatch here)

Of course she didn't have her relatives addresses, good phone numbers or much of anything for us to actually help us make contact with her relatives. But I was trying my best trying to help her, asking a lot of questions trying to figure things out trying to get her to describe where they live etc.

But the more I'm talking to her, things just seem kind of off, so I ask her when exactly her dad died

It was like literally right before the call, she was still sitting around in the home with the body and the first thing she thought to do about it was call her relatives that she apparently barely spoke to anyway.

Which, fine, I get wanting to let your relatives know about a death in the family, and different families and cultures have their own funeral practices and such, but you probably want to do something about the corpse in your living room first.

So I got her back over with the dispatch for her county, both so they can do whatever they need to about notifying the coroner and whatever other policies they have in place and because her local police would probably be better able to run the information through their system to find contact info for the relatives than I would be over the phone with her.

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[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago

Still 911 or 112 or your local equivalent. Then they'll decide. If they think a crime happened they want police there quickly. If they don't, they'll have someone come around when there's free time.

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[–] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 140 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It doesn't say they are GOOD, just that they are STEADY. Steadily bad is still steady.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A dead patient has steady vitals too.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dead patients don't have any vitals at all.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Are their vitals at zero, or are they null? Steady if the former, error if the latter

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

They don’t respond therefore are null pointers.

[–] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 13 points 4 days ago

they are null. People say "he's got no pulse", not "his pulse is zero"

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] princess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago

tbf you cant swing a domestic feline with steady vitals without hitting a programmer here

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[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

You could even say they have the stediest vitals of them all.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 5 days ago

Consider that the other patients that didn't successfully bind may have had worse numbers. (Idk if those were shown in the movie.)

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Those aren't life threatening vitals, they are just not healthy vitals. If you introduce a wild new experimental procedure to someone already unhealthy holding steady is a good thing, they aren't crashing. Those are fairly standard vitals for say, someone with covid requiring hospitalization but hopefully not yet intubation, or someone with pneumonia or emphysema.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A quick check shows that 81% is typically considered severe hypoxia

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah, 81% on the pulse ox is bad. If the bipap doesn't get that up you are buying a tube.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 71 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean thats pretty good for someone going through whatever sci-fi thing that was happening

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Those numbers aren't too far off from what I had the last time I was hospitalized for a nosebleed.

edit: Was.

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[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In wolverine origins a character stops their heart with hydrochlorothiazide because it's a cool sounding word

In reality she'd slightly drop her bp and probably have to piss

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about a kilogram of it?

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 55 points 5 days ago (3 children)

A kilogram of piss is about a liter, give or take.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, the old Lemmy switcharoo!

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hold my piss jug, I'm... uh... I feel like something's missing.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Save this comment, create the chain! And perhaps add a link to the future switcharoo so we may follow the rabbit hole up or down

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

what if you gift it for tax purposes?

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I watched that movie right after I started as a pharmacy tech. Stuck with me.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A pulse of 136 and an SpO2 of 81 are far from ideal, but they're also far from deadly. I'd say if you're fundamentally altering someone's biology traumatically and that's the worst thing it does to them they're doing pretty good, actually.

Yeah, I have sleep apnea and my SpO2 drops into the eighties once or twice a night.

Central apnea: fun for the whole family.

[–] hotdogcharmer@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Looks pretty steady to me. Not optimal, or good, but steady.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

136bpm is fine if the person is, understandably, anxious.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Is a person capable of anxiety if they're missing a fifth of the oxygen they're supposed to have?

IIRC 95% is like "you should probably talk to the doctor" territory

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 50 points 5 days ago (2 children)

95% is the lower limit of being fine.

80% is "You should go to a hospital. No, I mean by ambulance"

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago

Is a person capable of anxiety if they’re missing a fifth of the oxygen they’re supposed to have?

Yes. Based on seeing a family member in that predicament, I'd say they're capable of extreme anxiety at those levels.

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but kudos to whoever the UI dev for CONTAIN.MOD.C12 is.

If I had to guess the taskbar icons; Dashboard Mode, Fullscreen Mode, Report View, Directories, System Management, Power Management, Home, Settings, Shopping, Trash.

Up top looks like all the controls you need for the chamber to open and close doors, set temps, change vitals views...

Dunno what's up with the primary monitor not adopting the dark UI theme, but that happens with GNOME some times.

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[–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What's the issue? Death is also a "stable condition".

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This is why most medical dramas are irritating.

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