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European Broadcasting Union says vote required after several nations threaten potential boycott

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the vote fails, it's up to the viewers to boycott the whole thing.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes but at the same time do brace yourself for having them β€œwin” by having the most public vote again, the genocide supporters will be watching and voting.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean the most funds for purchasing votes and the most β€œfans” willing to vote in multiple countries, multiple times.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They certainly wouldn’t be above that but for the most part they don’t need to. Its been known that last year they spend a huge amount on propaganda for selective audiences, and because some nonsense everyone can vote 20 times.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

I think eurovisions refusal to respect widespread calls for an audit also rings alarm bells on the integrity of the organization.

[–] anytimesoon@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For the "rest of the world" vote, for the others, it's per telephone number.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's easy, the contest is pure garbage.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

it's just a bit of light hearted fun.

That's why genocidal countries should not be given a platform..

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

It's post-irony, internationalism and stupid songs, so I'm always surprised when people my age don't get it. I don't know, maybe you're a bit older?

[–] s1ndr0m3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I didn't know that Isreal was in Europe.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not, it's in the European broadcasting union. Armenia and Algeria are also member. Australia (kangaroo) also participates in the Songfestival.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean algeria and armenia have much more right than israel. Idk about australia tho, but they only submit their funky psychedelic songs usually so i would allow it.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago

The reason for Australia is, that they are huge Eurovision nerds and we find that funny. Thats why they are welcome. Also their acts are usually good.

[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Australia right now.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Much like the rest of Eurovision, it doesn't make much sense.

See also: Australia. Though their 2023 entry was an absolute banger to be fair.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It makes perfect sense. The EBU covers the ITU European Broadcasting Area, which extends to the40th meridian and 30th parallel. This definition of Europe is based on the practicalities of radiocommunication propagation and historical telegraph routes rather than current political boundaries.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In fairness, that wouldn't be my go-to obvious answer, but that is pretty fuckin' interesting nonetheless. Thank you for informing me 😊

I just want to add that due to the above territorial definition of EBU, Australia is no member of EBU, but associated. As such, they don't have the formal right to take part at the ESC, but are invited by the EBU to contribute.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I expect there to be an expert panel who will take up 50% of the votes. The rest is for the broadcasters.

Also if anything looks suspicious or maybe potentially unfavourable, they can assign votes to broadcasters as they would have expected them to vote.

Wasn't this how it went a few years when they suspected a handful of nations to have coordinated their voting?

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago

For me personally there being a pro-israeli contestant isn't enough to boycott or ban them from participating. I can see how for some people the large israeli sponsors might be enough to boycott or ban them. But for me what really does it is the political effort to gather votes for the israeli candidate - they've put out ads to get people to vote for israel, especially targeting people who normally wouldn't watch it. There is plenty of social media posts of people saying they voted for israel 20 times and not having seen a single thing except maybe a performance on youtube. Manipulating the vote is a gross violation of the rules and Israel should be punished for that.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

The major players and who also pay most to the European Broadcast Union and Eurovision, the big five Germany, UK, Spain, France, Italy, Spain will be decisive. Spain is the only one of those that would support an exclusion of Israel. Germany, France, and UK are unlikely to do that.