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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 139 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never fun for anybody

Meanwhile, at Microsoft:

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, but, but, think of the shareholders! Nobody ever thinks about the shareholders! :(((

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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're also upping the sub price for some home user office plans. Apparently it's milk the customer time at microsoft.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is that most of the people making these decisions have been seeing their incomes and net worth increase steadily over the past decade. They don't truly understand their subscriber base.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

But they do understand "charge what the market will bear". It's all about short term profit.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thanks for letting me know, I've been paying just for some spare OneDrive space but I think I'll cut it if they're raising the price

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 week ago

Xbox: "Price Increases Are Never Fun For Anybody"

Meanwhile Xbox execs:

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I remember when GamePass was first announced and everybody lauded Microsoft for being “pro-consumer” and outright cheered when they started buying up independent studios.

I remember being downvoted to oblivion for pointing out the very obvious 5 year plan for GP and the fact that it would go… exactly the way it’s currently going.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've been in the fuck subscriptions camp. Sony locking multiplayer behind PS+ was wha5 led me to dropping consoles as my primary gaming system, since I refused to pay for multiplayer.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I don’t mind subscriptions for ongoing infrastructure as much. My problem is with using a subscription to replace ownership.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I never understood the praise at all. It's literally turning DRM into a business model.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

Lol that's always been the business model

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[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. Same thing with netflix.

The average consumer is a moron, so their complacency is irrelevant in determining what's a good deal.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I feel like I responded to this exact comment on Reddit years ago saying the same. The thing people don't realize, is subscriptions give you zero control of ownership and it's always in the best interest of the corp to bait and switch.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sacrifice the future for a temporary revenue/profit go up

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it will work out for them. They just made a 50% profit increase. I doubt if even 10% of subscribers cancel.

It worked for Netflix, Disney+, Hulu... People just need to stop buying shit, but they won't.

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Even though I personally never used it I was astonished at how quickly so many people blindly trusted it. What I'm more astonished with is how quickly Microsoft has managed to destroy that brand trust.

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Raising the price of hardware twice since May and now raising the price of game pass by 50% is not something a company would do if they're interested in competing against Sony or Nintendo. Clearly Microsoft has thrown in the towel on XBOX. Only thing left for Microsoft to do is announce cancellation of next gen console altogether and do layoffs. I don't know when that will happen but it's inevitable at this point.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yup they'll go the route of Sega. The writing has been on the wall with the Xbox Division for awhile now that I'm honestly surprised they're still trying to "make it work".

Xbox was a weird one. I haven't used one since the 360 and honestly I couldn't even begin to tell you what the next console in the line was after the 360. was it the series x? was it the one? I dont' know. I mean after buying like 5 360s because of red ring or whatever why would I continue that idiocy?

[–] Laser@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Lol yeah the naming was incredibly bad. But I'm pretty sure it was 360 -> one -> series. I only owned the original one (not the One one) and a 360 which luckily was unaffected by RRoD.

I think the 360 was really good all things considered, it was a good console at the time and MS actually helped getting smaller studios their stuff into the store with summer of arcade. It also captured a lot of interest from third party studios. All in all pretty solid. Damn shame that the RRoD tainted the console so much.

Segmenting the market after into S and X was a really dumb move in my opinion. The other one was trying to turn it into an entertainment machine instead of a game console (TV, TV, TV, sports...)

[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Raising the price of hardware twice since May and now raising the price of game pass by 50% is not something a company does if they're interested in competing against Sony or Nintendo.

But when Sony and Nintendo are doing the same thing...?

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[–] EnderLaw@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago
[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 week ago

It's fun for the people making more profit.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've made very clear that they're reducing functionality, dropping products including their gaming companies, and raising prices across the board to somehow come up with billions for AI. They no longer care about their customers or employees, only this holy grail quest for money that will evaporate. Dump Microsoft.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Microsoft was never going to make gaming affordable. The entire goal of GP is like any subscription service, to get you hooked so they can increase the prices. Microsoft is not and never was a pro consumer company. And GamePass is Microsoft’s attempt at making a hardwareless console. It’s a BYOD walled garden. It’s bad for consumers and bad for developers and publishers. Consumers will own nothing and studios are beholden to MS gatekeepers. Some account manager basically decides how much the devs will be financially compensated before the game is even released, instead of letting the market decide. Remember those court documents which showed how much they under valued Baldur’s Gate 3. If you think the standard 30% store cut is outrageous GamePass is on another level of bad. Sure they are currently showering devs in cash, but once MS has a significant chunk of the market they are going to turn off that tap. We’ve seen it with Netflix and Spotify. Like even the most popular artists earn fractions of cents per user.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but we're trying to reinforce by adding more value to these plans as well."
Fortnite Crew and Ubisoft+ Classics

So if you don't play Fortnite and aren't interested in 15 different Assassin's Creed titles, fuck you I guess

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Imagine, if you will, the possibility of NOT increasing prices 50% to give us the "additional value" of shit we don't want.

I was happy paying for games, but suddenly I'm extremely willing to get back into piracy. Fucking weird, right?

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's something we don't take lightly, and we're listening to the feedback of players and the community to try to provide them with more of what they’re asking for.

God they will never understand that we see right through their bullshit corpo-speak answers will they. Everything they just said is nothing. They don't take it lightly. They are listening. They will try. There is nothing concrete in that wet paper towel of an answer.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Except your CEO the boardroom and the shareholders

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Lol, but here's one anyway. - Microsoft

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Especially for the companies who disappear because they were too greedy.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm trying to think of a single example and I'm struggling

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

EA just had to sell to avoid continuing their downward spiral

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

McDonald's is the most clear cut example, although that's ongoing

There's been countless little companies that sent themselves into death spirals with a price hike, but when they're big their remains are pounced on, or they experience a slow decline before collapsing to a failed pivot

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While they might or might not have reasons to raise prices, those people who cancelled their subscriptions definitively had their reason.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's too expensive.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 14 points 1 week ago

So, if there had been no cancellations and their customers had just paid their bills without comment or criticism, they'd still have been telling us how terrible they felt about the whole thing?

Bovine Excrement.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're selling an underpowered console that spies on the home for 800usd. Stfu about the price being tough on the company

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

There's a special edition for $730+tax so maybe they mean that.

But starts at $380, less for return.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Infinite growth is impossible, so they switched to squeezing something until it breaks, then identifying the next thing to squeeze. Eventually, they run out of things to squeeze, and switch to squeezing the people directly.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

And it started with convincing console gamers it is necessary to pay for multiplayer. Whole ecosystem has been about trying to squeeze consumers for all the money they have. Even the locked proprietary hardware feeds into it of normalizing lack of control over hardware.

But, it is Microsoft at the top so not surprising.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Look at that added value, tho

[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it fair to blame 343 Studios' incredibly, laughably incompetent handling of the Halo franchise for this? And by this I mean the obvious death of the Xbox as a gaming platform. Or, from a different perspective, could Halo have actually saved the Xbox if the games had been amazing, or even just good?

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Thank you captain obvious?

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I would never give Microsoft money for their shitty subscription, so it is kind of fun for me.

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