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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

I see no issues with this. It's good to know the rules and your rights, and other useful info.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Landlords are just people who own property? Regular average people. Now.... we can deduce that since most people kinda suck, on average, most landlords will kinda suck on average. But also, there are very kind and understanding landlords too. That said, they are like real people in the sense that they respond to how they are treated.

Treat'em like an asshole and they will probably oblige you. Treat someone pleasantly and with respect, you'll probably be doing yourself a favor.

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

the "adulting is hard" bit makes it look like a complex that's nearby a university. having had friends in similar living situations, i can tell you: over-privileged college kids in their first not-mommy&daddys-house residence can be absolutely out of fucking control

[–] protist@mander.xyz 163 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It says VOA at the bottom. Volunteers of America manages a ton of affordable and voucher-based properties around the country. Some of the people I've helped move into units with them have been on the streets for years and have zero living skills. A class like this could genuinely help someone stay housed who might otherwise lose their housing voucher and be back on the street

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 70 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It genuinely seems like it could have fantastic advice. I just wish they didn't make it so incredibly condescending.

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

But if it's voluntary, it's not smart to sound like "you are an idiot and I don't like you". Especially people with mental or legal problems might avoid a situation where they are being confronted about their faults.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is blunt, for people who can't understand anything else.

I used to work for a nonprof helping the homeless, ran shelters, other programs.

Some people are traumatized, some people are a bit mentally off, some people are more so just dense, stupid, cocky assholes to whom the concepts of rules and consequences just... fundamentally do not seem to register, who also continuously and obviously lie.

Now this was more shelter oriented, but we helped move people into new housing too.

If you can't handle shelter rules, as in, you consistently violate them, we were a lot less eager to help those people into housing, because they can't follow rules, and part of what we are supposed to be doing on our end is sending over people who can and will.

Also, trust me, if you've ever been homeless, you will almost certainly develop a bit thicker skin than being offended by slightly impolite and blunt phrasing on a piece of paper, you will be dealing with a lot more serious shit than that basicslly all of the time, a lot more, extremely blunt and rude people than that, basically all the time.

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I served on the board of a Section 8 housing authority for a number of years.

You would be amazed at the number of people who don't understand that leases are legally binding contracts and there are actual, enforceable consequences for violating the conditions of it.

"You guys can't evict me."

"Uhhh, yeah, we can. It just so happens that hording 30 cats in your house and letting them soak every inch of the place with piss is a violation of the terms of your lease."

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I worked in a few affordable housing sites and the OP looks like something the on-site social workers cooked up.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You say that, but...

I just got an email from my building saying that someone has been smoking weed in the hallways and in apartments (with shared HVAC); it reeks. It's a smoke-free lease.

The first floor is a daycare center for kids with special needs.

I guess some people really need to be told that these things are not okay.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My bad, that's probably me. I can try blowing it out a different window.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I smoked, I lived in a house that the family owned and still never did it inside

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

It just seems like the considerate thing, but what do I know.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought this is a useful campaign until I reached the row about Karen. Don't be a snitch.

[–] Atkat@leminal.space 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, the Karen in that scenario is the implied snitch. That line is saying something like, "are you a young POC just minding your own fucking business in your apartment when you keep catching that damn white lady sticking her head around the balcony divider to peer into your place and listen to your conversations, trying to catch you doing something wrong? We'll tell you what your rights to privacy are"

If you knew that's what it meant and you were actually saying don't snitch on the racist white lady for spying or her Black neighbors or whatever though...well we just won't ever be friends I guess.

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I took it as turning the discussion around - I.e. what to do if your neighbour behaves as above? If so, it sounds like a good way to get people to think about respectful behaviour.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think the people who are likely to become evicted due to poor decisions on their part, would be interested in taking a class in how not to become evicted.

This Venn diagram has no overlap.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I suspect it's an apt building that is quick to evict - when people plead ignorance to the rules "well you should have attended the FREE LEASE VIOLATIONS TRAINING DUH!"

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I'm a millennial and I hate the verb "adulting" more every time I hear it.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago

It was funny at first, but I won’t miss it if it disappears like other slang has.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

That seems fairly reasonable. No one should have to put up with noisy neighbours stomping around all night or throwing house parties packing like sardines into overcrowded flats like it's a bus in India or constantly emitted smells of dogshit, weed and extra smelly south asian food or be harassed for no reason or feel unsafe or otherwise disrupted in their own home or the surrounding infrastructure that they need to use as part of daily life like exits/entrances/walkways etc.

It's called the social contract.

Edit: If you wondered what the hell happened to the social contract and basic self-awareness, just look at the number of downvotes on this fairly uncontroversial take. These are the people who are blasting tiktoks on speaker on public transport and dumping garbage outside the bins.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (14 children)

dogshit, weed and asian food

one of these is not like the other...

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

asian food

god forbid people season their fucking food. all foodstuffs must be boiled until grey and served with ketchup right?

jfc

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's also pretty standard shit for an apartment lease.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Asian food. Oh, so you're racist?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What the fuck is your problem with Asian food?

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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This feels incredibly targeted to me... one of the residents must be a pit bull owner with a deadbeat cousin and some really good Tuesday nights.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I think those are just the most common things people get evicted for or complained about

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

its probably helpful for the people it describes. not everyone understands how lease agreements work, even in the basic way the flyer talks about.

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Sounds cool. Pretty thoughtful

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’ma take a wild guess - is this being posted in a college town? Because a lot of that looks like shit you would’ve needed to tell me when I was 19.

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[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

All of a sudden I can see, more clearly, how "landlord" is a form of controlling the poor, like low wages is, it's not just an imbalance in the current system where they've accidentally made the system entirely too heavy with investors and not rebalanced the system to be fair, that's no accident. It's a system and purposeful tool of oppression. They aren't going to make housing more affordable or do anything about the fact "landlords" (landlords, corporations, Airbnb, owning houses) hold too much power. That's by design. Capitalism creates slavery in insidious ways, until suddenly it's not insidious, but by then it's too late.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You got that from this post?

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think capitalists think much beyond "I need more money and I don't give a shit about anything else". Sure, some are super fucking competent and scary as shit, but most are Zuckerbergs, Musks, and Bezos. Incompetent weirdos that managed to sit their ass on a somewhat stable asset and had others do all the labor for them.

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