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Good, but nowadays the difference for flagship spec is more $800/$3000.
My console from 2020 runs games about the same as PC hardware from 2018. If you built a 2018 spec PC today it would beat the Xbox Series X and PS5, but unlike the consoles, PC components have reduced in price.
Which means the difference with available hardware and matched SSD size would be $650/$900
My gaming PC is also a digital audio workstation, a photo editing platform, a video editing platform, a home theatre PC, and a platform for spreadsheets and financial planning.
guys, it's rage bait, you don't have to defend a strawman
Than*
Let's compare a 6 year price without games.
PC gaming
800 gaming PC 200 mid cycle update to GPU 3-5 years in
PS5
500 non-gaming PC because your ps5 isn't a useful alternative 500 ps5 650 ps5 pro 4 years in 720 for PlayStation online basic at 10 per month
1000 vs 2370
Laughing at console gamers spending more than the cost of a basic computer on the privilege of using it online via your own internet which you also pay for
PS5
500 non-gaming PC
Come on, dude. Firstly, you can get a non-gaming PC for under $200 easy. Hell, if you know where to look, you can get it for free.
500 ps5 650 ps5 pro 4 years in
Why not just... not upgrade the PS5? Save yourself $650. If you want to "balance" things, the PC guy can save $200 on their own upgrade.
Wait for the PS6, which will be out in '27/'28 and just enjoy the OG console that was released in '20 for the life of the platform.
Like, this is obviously not an apple to apple comparison. And that's spotting you a generous $800 PC build out of the gate. You're simply not building a PS5 quality rig in 2020 for $800.
720 for PlayStation online basic at 10 per month
Do I get to charge the PC owner the release price of every PSO title released for free? Because that's going to come out far higher than $720 over six years.
Are you playing any MMOs on that PC? Should we be charging you the base rate for those as well?
I'm not even a PS5 guy. I tapped out at 4 and game on my PC happily. But I'm not going to pretend console gamers are doing 3x my spend just because it's possible to do so.
500 non-gaming PC because your ps5 isn’t a useful alternative
That's kind of a non-argument. I know a lot of people with desktop gaming PCs who also have a laptop (for school, uni, whatever). The people I know who only play games on console usually don't have a desktop, they only have a laptop that's not suitable for gaming. I also know a lot of people who play games on console and PC and therefore have both, plus usually a laptop. And then I also know a lot of people who don't have ps+/xbox-whatever because they don't play online games.
I was into the PCMR sub back when you could build a machine that ran better than the current console generation for the same price as the two main consoles. And it's not like consoles perform so above and beyond a PC that there's little difference today; the PC hardware just exploded in price so it costs so much more to make something that runs as good or better than a PS5, which is sold at a loss.
It's possible to build a competent gaming manchine if you're ok with 1080p. A ten year old card still runs 1080p perfectly fine.
I have a Ryzen 5500 on a radeon 550. It plays mostly everything at 720 to 1080. It'll do lite 4k but it does what it needs to do.
I bought a Acer nitro with a 3050 in it for my teenager. 🤷 It's perfectly fine. She plays mostly counter strike anyway.
I play a bunch of indie stuff and remasters... Unless you want 60fps in cyberpunk in 4k ultra ray tracing... You can get into a pretty decent build for well under 1k.
Divide PC by 10 and add 300 dollars to console.
For $800 I think you can get a laptop that is more powerful than consoles, with similar GPU power, but you also get all the benefits of PC gaming. You can't even mod most console games, which is reason enough to never buy a console. It's just a way inferior way to game.
I've never been happy with the performance of my gaming PC for the cost, always seems like it should perform better, but the real reason I don't buy consoles is because I want to be able to upgrade my hardware but still play my old games.
Honestly, the strongest advantage of PC, if you don't mind a little tinkering, is modding. I've modded on console before, and it's usually a pretty difficult process, and limited, compared to PC. The thing I find a little silly, is I did build the super expensive PC, and most of what I play would totally run on a console if they were open platforms.
But seriously, Celeste: Strawberry Jam was probably my favourite game of last year. I'm looking so forward to the release of the Fusion Collab, likely in the next year.
I've been playing Archipelago runs with friends over the past couple months with Hollow Knight and Nine Sols, and they've been a blast.
Emulation is also wild, tons of games I've enjoyed in the past, playable again with incredible mod support, I'm looking very forward to playing Kaze's Return to Yoshi's Island when it releases, and had a blast with the Majora's Mask Recomp earlier this year.
And steam sales are ridiculous, a lot of these games are much cheaper much more regularly on PC.
If I'd spent say, 500$ on this PC, it would be very easy to save that amount in the price of games, and how many fewer games you'd need to fill your time with all these options, in just a couple years, assuming you play regularly.
Are we still on this exhausted argument? What's next Apple or Samsung? People need to chill, just do you, enjoy your gaming experience on whatever you like
I'm certain you can build a $15K USD computer, I bet Linus Tech Tips does it regularly, but idk who tf is doing that when an nVidia 3090Ti is only $1080 and is ranked #23 on PassMark.
I understand this is a joke, but 15k? Wtf. I think you meant server, not PC
The number gets higher and higher every time a console dweeb makes the argument that they're not constantly fucking themselves.
That's a lot of words to say you are jealous
Me cycling between Minecraft and Isaac on my 10 Year Old PC that was outdated when I bought it and my baby games on the switch: 😎 (My take is, PC gaming as shit because confusing and expensive parts and console gaming is shit because companys ripping consumers off)
Don't need to buy a new console every few years.
When getting to slow can upgrade single components.
Cost/performance is basically on par with consoles at the moment.
Completely ignores the fact that consoles are a type of computer and the gaming companies can not sell console + games at +/-0 or they'll go out of business.
The fuck you on about?
stupid meme for stupid people that don't actually know how much a pc costs
Enjoy your library being mostly 30fps 720p games.