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[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Hey! This is where I found out I dont really like multi day mountain hikes while sleeping in shared rooms :-). Was still amazing though, A+ panoramic views and lush hidden meadows.

Me in one of those meadows!

[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 16 points 2 months ago

Lovely photo, you have a very kind smile. Travel well my friend!

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you come to the Cascades in Washington, please don't stand in our meadows like this. These plants do NOT survive being stepped on and you're compressing the soil, preventing regrowth. If everyone walks in the meadows they will vanish forever. There is no natural mechanism to uncompress soil.

I never understood why people are annoyed by tourists until I moved to the mountains...

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is no natural mechanism to uncompress soil.

Earthworms.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also Plantago and some other plants...

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

The level of cope people will produce in order to refute my request to not destroy fragile meadows is nuts. I thought I was being polite. And I'm right.

Once the meadow is trampled and the soil is compacted, and all the native flowers are gone, go ahead and plant some plantains there up on that mountain in the compacted soil. Problem solved?

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, earthworms cannot undo the damage from soil compression caused by humans. There are ancient trails that have been found by archaeologists that haven't been used in thousands of years and yet are still compressed. Human foot traffic is incredibly destructive.

The rule for hiking is that you hike and camp on durable surfaces only. Meadows are extremely fragile. There are visible rocks in this photo right behind this person, which they could be walking on. This is a selfish thing to do.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did not correct you (nor did I voice an objection) on any point other than one :p

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough. The way people are treating me for advocating against the destruction of nature is fucking disgusting. People are taking your point to mean that it's totally fine to trample meadows because worms will fix it and I'm an asshole for saying anything negative about this person fucking up a meadow for a photo.

Ugh. Sometimes Lemmy is exactly like reddit.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you do come across quite like the Fritz (saying this as a German): "Das ist VERBOTEN!" A somewhat calmer approach to a quite harmless topic might get you more reach in terms of raising awareness.

I am quite sure that the problem is only ever in balance / the mass of people walking in a particular place. We are monkeys on this planet, and it is absolutely okay to walk through nature, much more so than flatten a forest to build a road.that we can walk on. People should maybe just refrain from walking off the paths in nature reserves / fragile ecosystems.

On a flowery meadow somewhere in the middle of a long hike? I don't see the problem.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It really depends on the elevation. There are some places that are so fragile that it is very bad to step on anything not durable, like they are saying. But if you are down in the valley, especially in the floodlands, it is not going to hurt long term to frolick in a meadow.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just for this comment I will be flying to Washington and will compress a meadow.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago

Next time don’t bring up Washington meadows on a post not about Washington meadows.

[–] afox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Adorable. We'd be homies for certain.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How was adjustment to the elevation? I go backpacking a lot and that looks amazing.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was untrained for this and we did not take any extra time to get accustomed to the height. I live around 0m height normally. I did not notice any difference in breathing or being extra drained because of it, maybe we kept our pace low enough?

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Damn, even Frodo lived life at 1m height

[–] groet@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

The dolomites are not realy high enough for acclimatization to matters. Everything under 2500m is fine and going (from 0) to 3000m still only affects 40% of people. Unless you are climbing Marmolada (3300m) and are sleeping in huts that are generally below 2800m you should be fine. Of course some people are more affected than others but that is not the norm.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 46 points 2 months ago

Imagine growing up there. "Mom, im going to my friends house."
"Not till you mow the mountain, you're not."

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I knew I recognized that word!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s probably the most badass farm I’ve ever seen.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Terraced farming is also incredible. I wonder if it were started today, if anyone would boþer.

[–] yoyoyopo5@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

User tagged as: “thorny”

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be honest I don't even try to decode those anymore

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that you don't... bother?!

Sorry. I'll... I'll see myself out.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Actually I meant boper.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Who mows that grass, and why?

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's actually a very popular and accessible place which this photography captures really well.

The left side if wild, probably nobody even goes there. Right side is perfectly curated with a convenient path which you can most likely reach with a lift opened from dawn to dusk.

The valley has a great infrastructure. A lot of spots are even wheelchair accessible.

Yet, you can start from such spots and hike until there is literally nobody else around, even during high season.

Warmly recommended.

[–] samsapti@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The peaks you see are called Seceda. The entire area starting from the right side of them in the picture is called Alpe di Siusi (Italian) / Seiser Alm (German), and is the largest high-elevation Alpine meadow in Europe. I've been there recently and can confirm the wheelchair accessibility.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Wonderful, thanks for clarifying!

[–] afox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I wish that was my job.

[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

The dolomites are spectaculary beautiful. Can recommend.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Its Dolomites, Baby!

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Beautiful but alas since a few years overrun by tourists. I advice everybody reading this to go there in August, the quiet month.

[–] OhShitSon@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How are the temperature there during August? I have trouble with our Swedish summer sometimes when it's 28°+C, I can't imagine hiking in mountains if it's too hot.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are high up, so perfect.

[–] OhShitSon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks, I'll put it on my travelling list!

[–] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

Dolomite, you say?

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They looked pretty different in 1914

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that when you saw them?

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I have family that's taking me to Florence next year so I'm slowly starting to pick up some travelers Italian as well as learning about what I might want to do. And who knows maybe this will be my gateway into more European travel since it'll involve overcoming a lot of the hurdles that may have previously seemed insurmountable about traveling to Europe. So who knows maybe I'll make another trip in the future and focus on Northern Italy more so I can see the dolomites myself!

[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 4 points 2 months ago

I hope you have a wonderful time, wherever your path takes you.

[–] samsapti@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago

Can 100% recommend to visit the Dolomites!

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

one of my favorite Battlefield 1 maps

[–] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I knew I'd recognised this from somewhere! What a campaign.