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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 128 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reminder for anyone who missed the memo

The late Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre claimed that she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz on Epstein’s private plane.

[–] Bonifratz@piefed.zip 78 points 3 days ago (3 children)

While he denied the claim, he did admit to getting a massage while at Epstein’s house, although he stated that he kept his underwear on and did not enjoy it.

I guess it's only sexual abuse if you enjoy it...

On a serious note, there is just no bottom to the depravity of the US ruling class, is there?

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

None. They can and do get away with any evil, and their team will continue to cheer for them.

I really don’t know what to do about it, don’t know that I can. But I’m coming home from vacation and plan on finding some local groups to join that I can support. I’m also a leader in our scout troop, so hopefully passing along better morals to some of our youth.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

It just came out recently that wealthy Americans and Russians came to the Balkans during the Yugoslav war to hunt and kill civilians for fun.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

See, not a pedophile.

Who among us hasn't sucked a random airport cock to make sure you're not a gay?

Who amongst us hasn't raped a child to make sure you're not a pedophile?

Can we really fault a man for exploring his sexuality?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 78 points 3 days ago

It's not TECHNICALLY Pedophilia!

-The people calling Trans people PEDOPHILES!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's implied here, is, that there is direct evidence of trump having sex with minors. And enough people obviously know that it's release is inevitable, they're doing this tired labor of trying to redefine what a pedophile is or isn't.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

As was predicted.

Nothing will happen now that pedophiles run the world. This is literally a return to norm.

This whole child rape thing is a new concept that came about when we let women vote.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Yep, we got it, pretty clear.

Just say "evidence of Trump raping children", though. Your "having sex with minors" suuure sounds like the minimizing, deliberate lying (to hide extreme harm) that all the fuckin rags do.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Remember that Alan Dershowitz likely murdered his wife and molested children with Epstein.

Edit: Also, why does the lesser Cuomo look like a pirate?

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alan Dershowitz likely murdered his wife

Never heard that in my life.
Sources?

molested children with Epstein

Agreed on that one.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It's possible, if unlikely. Dershowitz's first wife died of "suicide" by drowning herself in the East River after a shitty contentious divorce that apparently started when he left her for a much younger law student.

This guy started off as contrary and over time, I believe, became truly evil. There are no lows to which he will not sink. He wasn't just Epstein's personal defense lawyer against all the various lawsuits involving girls and trafficking, he was also best buddies with Epstein for years. An excellent article (that was published less than two weeks before Epstein died in jail) is this piece by The New Yorker:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/alan-dershowitz-devils-advocate

I didn't get the usual paywall but here's an archive link if you need one

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, man - when your defense has to boil down to "Yeah but sexually exploiting kids isn't really that bad...", you know you're fucked.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dershowitz has made a career defending the indefensible.

But worry not: there's a special place in hell reserved for him already, and at his age, he's probably starting to feel the flames lick his feet.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

No one is indefensible. Dershowitz sucks but not because he defended people who you don't like. Everyone gets a fair trial or no one does. If the state can just accuse you of pedophilia and it's too noxious to defend you, the state can do that to anyone, and all rights are out the window.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Okay, fine ephebophilia.

Still rape. Still illegal.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't listen to anything that pedophile cunt dershowitz says. He's all over the Epstein flight logs, visited Epstein Island a bunch of times, then defended Epstein in court. Virginia Guiffre says he raped her on Epstein airplane. Dude is a pedophile who rapes kids, just like all his rich pedophile buddies who raped kids. Makes Harvard look like a place that protects pedophiles.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

But, to be fair, he's also being interviewed by the brother of the guy who's defending Bibi in court for war crimes and genocide. We have to accept their side of the argument as well. It's not pedophilia if the girl went through puberty, and it's not genocide if the other side burned your Reichstag building. (do I have to write /s on lemmy?)

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Be VERY wary when you encounter a person trying ever so hard to lean into that invisible line between pedophilia and hebephilia or ephebophilia, because chances are excellent you are talking to a person who does not or will not understand the very real and lasting harm done by any of these acts, and possibly approves of one or more strongly.

To be clear, I'm not talking about a sixteen year old who looks twenty-five; to me that's an entirely separate issue. If you genuinely believe you are looking at an adult, IMO there's neither harm nor foul in having thoughts there.

Instead I am referring to looking at an obviously underage, clearly pubescent or pre-pubescent boy or girl and finding that sexually attractive.

People who defend that by slapping the label of ephebophilia on it, when clearly the age and/or appearance of the victim does not rise to that standard, are hoping you don't already know exactly what ephebophilia means, that it is different than hebephilia and pedophilia, and that it, too, is incredibly questionable.

As a reminder for anyone not sure (definitions extracted from the first paragraph of the Wiki article for each):

Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children; psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13

Hebephilia: strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14

Ephebophilia: primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

Angling for that pardon once the files come out, eh?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

Ah, finally? I was wondering when they'd start with that one

[–] RedMari@reddthat.com 16 points 3 days ago

This last ditch excuse ignores that even if it's technically a different label, it's still illegaland horrendously wrong

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Coming from this fucking scheister, that's rich. Dershowitz himself is closely linked to Epstein and figures prominently in the files. Have those people no shame?

If I was him, I'd go hide somewhere as far from the US as possible. Because if anyone is even more suspiciously a pedo than Trump in the Epstein files, that would be him. And yet here he is, running his disgusting mouth. Just unbelievable...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

*shyster* but your spelling is better.

probably from German Scheisser, literally, defecator

First Known Use 1844

I thought it derived from the character Shylock but Webster’s says no. Also for anyone who doesn’t know, please note it also can be very Jew-hatey, so there’s that.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Scheister is an accepted spelling. It's also a lot more about shit lawyers than about shit jews than shyster, which is why I always prefer using it. It's also a lot more about shit than shyness if you speak German and derivatives, which is also more in line with what I think of lawyers.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Scheister is an accepted spelling.

Not on the interwebs I can see, but would be curious to find the source for that. All the results I get back just spell it the other way.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From Wiktionary:

shyster

English Alternative forms:

  • schister, scheister, sheister, schyster, shister, shaista, shiester, schiester
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Geez why not make jghyshter an alternative form. Worsceshesctershistershire.

https://wikidiff.com/scheister/shyster

Shyster is a alternative form of scheister.
Scheister is often a misspelling of shyster.
Scheister has no English definition.

Wacky.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, even if it's incorrect, I'll use it. One of the powers of the English language is that you can mold it to your liking and it's a-okay as long as other people understand you. And if Shakespeare can invent 1,600 words, surely I can invent a few myself 😜

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Fair enough!

Happy cromulenting!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

And I thought it meant someone who operates a shy: a carnival attraction where you throw things at various kinds of targets in order to win a prize. The shy is one of the archetypal rigged games.

But I'm sure the dictionary compilers must know better than a yob like me.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Technically speaking

This joke is the first thing I thought of when I saw the headline.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That is absolutely perfect. YES. Thank you for the link.

He explained in three lines what took me a few paragraphs in another comment. I should have seen this first, lol.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Some say it’s statutory.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Oh man Dersh just continues to be the worst. Anyone who listens to the legal podcast Opening Arguments will have heard a lot about him.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What is up with the obsession with white men and fucking children?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

White man here, I don't fucking know and it sickens me and it's tarnishing what little credit white men have left.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sean combs, R Kelly... It's not a white guy thing it's a rich guy thing.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The j6 goons aren't rich. Half of the pastors aren't rich. The majority of government officials aren't rich.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure the lawyer has skeletons with Trumps

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

DERRRRRRSH

“Trump lawyer” ffs.