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    tech savvy ppl and non-techy ppl both dont like Edge, Bing and copilot

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    [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

    Google is fucking unusable as a search engine now. Bing is literally better now if you block the AI part.

    Was searching for something very simple. Google literally wouldn't find it. Changed the search terms multiple times.

    Tried bing and it literally popped up as the first result with the same first search I tried on Google.

    This isn't a one time thing either. Give me an alternate to Bing. But Google is literally hot garbage now.

    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Tech savvy people like Duckduckgo, Duckduckgo uses Bing under the hood

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I host my own search engine lol.

    [–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Ah, finally someone using the European open Search index?

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    No lol. SearXNG. But would look up what you mentioned

    [–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    SearXNG is not a search engine. It is a Frontend for everything from Google to bing.

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

    Ik that. I was talking in terms of a layman.

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    [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results.

    DDG uses a whole bunch of stuff, including feeding anonymized results through the bing API, but they've been largely driven by their own indexes for several years now after using Bing to bootstrap themselves.

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this is "tech" "savvy" people, not actual people who understand tech.

    The current version of Edge is literally just Chrome with extra bells and whistles.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Yup. This is the meme of a kind of person who is β€œtech savvy” as an affectation they use to adorn their personality. It’s nothing more, with no deeper thought involved.

    [–] YgestWefsid@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

    I just call myself a "guy on linux with a firefox fork" and nothing more to be honest.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

    i like edging

    [–] burgermeister@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Not OP, but I have been meaning to talk to my Ubuntu admin about Intune on his systems so we can use conditional access on them.

    With how difficult it had been to get macs setup, I have a feeling Edge will be the only way it works.

    So in enterprise situations....I'd say "Plausible".

    Personally I mostly use Firefox on Linux, but Proxmox gui doesn't handle that so well...so for that I have an App-isized Ungoogled Chromium window.

    [–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

    Am an admin, funny thing about conditional access, we use various conditions but one is geolocation; we bar all logins outside of three countries relevant to our workers. We employed it mostly due to a continuous low-threat brute force campaign targeting a few exposed accounts that my data analysis had identified. In testing it out from Red Team’s perspective I quickly realized that conditional access will indeed prevent a login outside of the whitelisted countries, but it will gladly let the attacker know that the reason the login failed was due to conditional access and not an incorrect username/password. So all Red Team has to do is brute force the password and then VPN over to our country of operation and they’re in.

    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Edge is actually pretty great. Bing…well, the image search is okay.

    [–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

    Don't knock Bing Videos, either. It's the best porn search engine in existence.

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    [–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

    Me too, I tried using Firefox on Mac but for some reason its power consumption is insanely high.

    [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    if im using chromium, it's gonna be vivaldi

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    [–] julien@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

    Where is Vivaldi?

    [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

    I love edge...

    /

    [–] Freakazoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    in the meanwhile im using Zen Browser.

    [–] gfaerny@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Thanks for introducing zen

    [–] Freakazoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

    No Problem, hope you like it!

    [–] valtia@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I'm using Edge and Bing right now, on Windows 11

    clearly, either ragebait or Microsoft rewards.

    [–] eta@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    On my work computer I actually use Edge over Chrome since it has vertical tabs by default.

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    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I'm tech savvy, and I dislike Firefox.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Any particular technical reason?

    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Past experience where they sucked it up. I used to be a Firefox apostle spreading the good word, then they start getting worse when chrome was getting hot. And it's been so easy to stay on chrome with no issues over the past 12 years that I haven't had any inkling to move back. There was a hard minute where Firefox sold out and shared data, sold it, and just wasn't great.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Isn't Chrome the one known for sharing data?

    I've been using primarily LibreWolf for almost a year and have not had any trouble using just Firefox based browsers for over three years. (Before then I needed Chromium for M$ teams occasionally)

    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

    And honestly at this point every browser pretty much out there shows data one way or another. And for a good hard minute Firefox was notoriously selling data because they were bleeding dry on their foundation and they needed to earn money so they decided to sell user data. At that time Chrome was much more secure and they don't necessarily sell data as opposed to sharing data with themselves.

    [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

    I know this is the wrong place for this but I like edge.

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