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[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My friend is sole IT guy for two production lines, managing security, multiple production buildings, redundancy, sensor lifetimes, emergency concepts etc, he has one colleague managing the human IT part

Like he manages all the machines and the other one all MS-Shit

It is always very interesting listening to his stories about managing multiple production lines where it costs so much if the machine is not running for some time

It is about producing chocolate, lol

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I love the redundancy on tech level, but not on the human level. I can only imagine the manager's dashboard with risks and mitigating actions.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

I contract at a place that has lost well over a million in the last 11 months in downtime that's specifically for low voltage/comms failures. They have been looking for an electrician for 11 months and 49-65k USD is the salary range.

They could have paid triple that and saved money AND got the deliverables for the year. They won't now.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Haha, yes

They are so fucked, if some mad lad is road raging and prevents my friend reaching his workplace

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

Jurassic Park is a tale of dangers of not investing enough on IT

[–] GrantsGhost@piefed.zip 103 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This joke comes from people ignoring the following:

  1. The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer who also worked with computers (not to the same level as Nedry)

  2. Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time and Hammond thought the automated systems would work because he was assured as much from his Chief IT guy.

  3. Nedry has a whole team working on the park's IT system. And I'm not just referencing book material. Hammond even said in the BLOODY movie "call Nedry's team on the main land" when shit started going down.

So no. Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park's computer infrastructure on just one guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer

Two IT guys

Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time

The opening scene - a working class schlub dragged into the Velociraptor cage because the transport protocols weren't up to the task of containing a dinosaur - illustrates the core conceit of the movie. That humans and their modern technology simply aren't ready to contend with a far more primal and powerful animal kingdom.

The hurricane flushing everyone off the island illustrated a major vulnerability. But the premise of the movie is that this park was never going to work precisely because the people running it were consumed by their own hubris and incapable of seeing the full extend of risk at play.

Nedry has a whole team working on the park’s IT system.

A team he's undercut and sabotaged in order to afford him the opportunity to steal Hammond's embryos. The subsequent movies are all around various mega-corps trying to seize control of the island and its bounty of dinosaur specimens and failing time and time again. The issue isn't merely that they're cheap, its that they're all greedy, myopic, and self-destructive.

Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park’s computer infrastructure on just one guy.

He was stupid enough to get locked out of his own systems by trusting a skeleton crew to manage the park during a hurricane. But that's just the kick-off of the story. Crichton could have written it differently - an engineering problem that the hurricane exposed, dinosaurs that outsmarted the security, the EPA coming in to shut the park down Ghostbusters style, animal liberation activists trying to free the dinosaurs - and ended in the same place.

In many ways, Jurassic Park is a retelling of King Kong. Just swap out the big monkey for a big lizard. But the core of the story - the belief that humans can turn these primal forces into an entertainment commodity revealing man's hubris - is tied up in Hammond's belief in his ability to control the uncontrollable.

Nedry is just an example of one more thing Hammond can't control.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I wasn't ready for this level of quantum level analysis of Jurassic Park.

I'M JUST HERE FOR THE DINOSAURS!!

[–] essell@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

But the Dinosaurs think you're here for them.

They're hungry and have ketchup ready.

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[–] cattywampas@midwest.social 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Also, it's not like the problems were only caused by Nedry or his team being understaffed or incompetent. Quite the opposite. He was a bad actor. And a bad actor in the right position can cause a lot of damage. He purposefully sabotaged the park in a way that couldn't have been easily averted.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Wayne Knight is a fine actor, what are you talking about.

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

When I was young I thought "who needs 3 computers at once ?"

Now I get it.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago

Hihi, little you entering a atom power plant control center would have been funny 😁

In my country, even trash burning systems have control centres where 5 people work on about 50 screens 😄

(It is a garbage burning facility which takes out all the things still usable (like metals) after the burning process, and it gives heat energy to the houses around, and it captures the produced CO2 prior it enters the atmosphere, but probably creating “green fuel" out of it 😌. non the less, I am quite proud about this facility, even if recycling plastics would be even better, but being realistically, there are only two plastics which are good recycleable (PET and PE-HD) and those get collected selectively in my country anyway.

Hope someone thinks this is interesting

Hahah, silly ADHS me

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Linux users. So we can troubleshoot how we borked one machine on one of the other two that we haven't yet borked.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 1 points 10 hours ago

Ahhh Virtual Machines 🥰

[–] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

One to break, one to fix, one to use.

[–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 198 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That's exactly the point. They did spare expenses, on a lot of things.

John Hammond Jurassic Park book spoilersJohn Hammond is clearly portrayed as a villain in the book. They lightened him up in the movie.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 88 points 1 day ago (3 children)

because it's impossible for richard attenborough to be a villain

[–] Klear@quokk.au 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also Spielberg saw himself in the character.

Oh I bet he did

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The movie really dumbed Hammond down to "overly optimistic money guy with a vision". Which was a bit distasteful if you've read the books. Just a bit.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe. I really preferred the movie version. Sometimes I prefer to like characters. I enjoyed the story more.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 19 points 23 hours ago

I liked movie Hammond too, don't get me wrong. It's just a completely different story because of the character shift.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Supposedly, that is the whole deal with the Chilean Sea Bass that he gloats about. Spared no expense. Apparently that fish sounds fancy, but is actually super cheap. The whole park needed to have the shine of a top-of-the-line facility, but in the end, Ingen and Hammond had no idea what they were really cooking up.

The raptors for instance, I always got the feeling that paddock was kind of small and rapidly constructed. Those things had killed multiple people in the past, and the park's response was cram them into a jail cell. You'd think an intelligent, dangerous animal, that was not part of the tour or experience would be euthanized, rather than risk the whole park...but here is Ingen not dealing with the problem, and instead, actively making more raptors.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

They just needed Chris Pratt, Raptor Whisperer and they would have been fine.

[–] watson@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

The book was a million times better than the movie. It was the first time I had read a novel that was turned into a movie and then saw the movie after reading the novel.

14-year-old me had never been so disappointed. And it taught me to never ever read the book before the movie.

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago

They are UNIX systems, they don't need an entire team to be managed once installed and running.

I'm only half joking. It's not UNIX but I've been working with "legacy" systems like IBM i mainframes, and those things don't need much to run. Sure, you have to update the system and the software once every few months, manage backups, role switches, etc., but it can mostly be done by a few people. But yeah, systems like this were (are) insanely expensive so most of his budget probably went there.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Newman had multiple monitors before it was cool.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Was it multiple monitors or multiple systems? Can't see if there's another keyboard and mouse there in front of the one behind him. Though I suppose it was all supposed to be mainframe terminals (running Linux in the movie, which I'm not sure had a mainframe version, as I understand, it started as a Unix for desktops, where Unix was the mainframe OS).

Edit: the Linux thing was my own bad memory, Lex recognizes Unix, which is weird because it was an experimental unix filesystem browser UI and most kids wouldn't have access to machines that run any kind of unix, so it wouldn't have been a "I played with some computers in my garage" kind of thing. Though being Hammond's grandkids, it's not outside the realm of possibility that she did have access to a mainframe either through Hammond's companies or from access to universities and the like.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this thread made me realize Hammond invited the scientists and grandkids to the island with a hurricane inbound. Not like those things just pop up like tornadoes. You know it's coming as much as a week in advance.

[–] Iunnrais@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Yep, but he needed to push through legal and investor complaints, so rush rush rush, damn the risk. They’re “captains of industry”, they couldn’t possibly fail!

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He is the only one on the island but there are more developers. Hammond even says to “call his team In Cambridge”.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

If I was the only onsite Devops and my professional support lived in Cambridge with an 8 hour time difference, I'd have a hard time not selling corporate secrets to the highest bidder.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I dont remember the movie well but I thought everyone left the island and this was the minimum team left behind.

[–] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yes, Nedry owned his IT company, but Hammond was withholding Nedry's final paycheck until debugging was done. Which had already gone over budget due to feature creep, so Nedry was doing it himself because he didn't have money to pay his people because Hammond wouldn't give him the money they agreed on. Hence why Nedry was looking to make some side money, he's literally doing all that debugging and final system fixes for free on the promise that he won't be screwed again by Hammond. IIRC anyway, its been like 30 years since I read the book... And a lot of my perspective changed as I got older and I got more experience in the industry. As a kid, I thought you took the job you should do the job, but as an adult I understand a lot better the dynamics of the situation and while I still think if you took the job you should do the job, I completely understand the feeling of getting Fucked by someone who would rather throw money at lawyers than just pay what they agreed on.

I have been in his position, and while I didn't betray the client and get killed, I really understand his mindset and "Fuck-it" attitude. Hammond is wealthy and using his position and power to spare as much expense as possible and step on as many contractors as possible. Kind of like an Orange Cheeto I know of. I had a company I work for that had to file bankruptcy because a half-billion dollar a year company hired us then charged back their initial payment and refused to issue final payment unless we did a ton of extra work, and when we did that, they just said "thanks" and vanished. Apparently American Express lets you contest a payment 6-12 months after it was issued and their stance is if you want your money you should sue.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Wow that missing back story really explains quite a bit. It wasn't just greed it was revenge and getting what's owed.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always said the real moral of Jurrasic Park was "don't fuck with IT"

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the book it was a huge amount of scope creep, Hammond refusing to pay for it and then acting all entitled.

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 44 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Ah, a rubber duck debugging adherent. At least they paid good money for a professional.

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[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Samuel L was also an IT guy, right? But yes, an expense was spared

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