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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago

That there is an American Kestrel. According to Wikipedia...

... it is not actually a kestrel in the phylogenetic sense. Instead, a process of convergent evolution to fit a similar small prey niche in the ecosystem as the true kestrels have left it with similar physical characteristics and hunting methods.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 39 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Little birds are so cute. Then you observe them going after their prey, imagine if they were larger, and then remember their ancestry. Yeah, they're cute.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Square-cube law means that as they get bigger they need to hunt less (lower rate of heat loss per kg of birb) and get less powerful compared to their size

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io -3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt such a law is a linear function, and probably plateaus at some point. I wouldn't consider large birds even outside raptors as weak because they are big, and dinosaurs? Maybe clarify what you mean as "less powerful".

Even outside the bird family, what about huge animals like orca, elephants, rhinos?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I meant weaker per kg of body weight, not in absolute terms

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

the square-cube law is the fact that a larger object has a lower ratio of surface area to volume than a similarly-shaped smaller object; i.e. as the scale of an object increases linearly, its surface area increases as a square function, and its volume increases as a cubic function.

thermodynamically, this means an object twice the size has 4 times the heat transfer (which occurs at the outer surface), but 8 times the heat capacity (since heat is stored throughout the volume). so it's heat loss is by raw numbers greater, but lower as a percentage of the total, i.e. the internal temperature is more stable

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Their prey don't agree with you

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

My favorite tiny little murder birb!

There's at least one falconer on YouTube who gets hired to reduce starling populations (which is sad because I love the laser birds too but they're invasive) and he literally drive-bys them by yeeting a kestrel out the window of the moving car. It's incredible to watch.

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Could you find a link or do you remember the channel name? I think falconry is really awesome and I'd love to see that

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is one of them. It's probably the best channel because he posts videos about how he trains the kestrals and also videos about other birds and rehabbing them.

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Thank you so much! I'll check it out

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 15 points 23 hours ago

Kestrels are so feisty! Kestrel fighting a Barn Owl

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kestrels(falconiformes) are more closely related to parrots so kinda makes sense.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 19 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Kestrels and falcons are each others closest relatives.

Both are more closely related to parrots than to kites hawks and eagles. In fact falcons are more closely related to tits than to hawks. But tits are more closely related to parrots than to falcons. Fuck, eagles and hawks are more closely related to woodpeckers than to falcons.

Bird cladistics is wild!

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I am never gonna finish the seating chart for this fucking banquet

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 21 hours ago

I've learned today I know nothing about avian evolution. I'm now classified as "amateur bird watcher", only slightly higher than "I think that's a pigeon"

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Where can I subscribe for more facts about tits and peckers?

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Clints Reptiles for more interesting cladistic facts. https://youtu.be/7xv3NLGO5do

or Ze Frank for: Wow, look at those boobies! https://youtu.be/oGdVSvsiaOk and New Caledonian Crows don't have the right peckers. https://youtu.be/B-HF-wBwQsc

On tour at a raptor rescue center.

Tour goes into their small raptor "play" enclosure, there more to keep them safe from the wild raptors in the area.

They bring in this tiny and adorable kite, it took some offered bits of food(bits of raw meat provided by the center) from us.

Wild Junco(that we previously had not noticed) in the enclosure did not agree about the cuteness of the kite. (It got out unharmed.)

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 2 points 22 hours ago

In the western hemisphere there is also the Bat Falcon (they are known to hunt hummingbirds too). In Africa there is the Pygmy Falcon.

And the smallest falcon in the world is in Malaysia: Black-thighed Falconet

typically measuring between 14–16 centimetres (5.5–6.3 in) long, with a 27–32 centimetres (11–13 in) wingspan, which is a size comparable to a typical sparrow

This falconet mainly feeds on insects, including moths, butterflies, dragonflies, alate termites and cicadas, occasional small birds, and lizards. Feeding behavior appears to often be social, with feeding parties up to ten recorded.