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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Why are they playing her off as apathetic? Super girl always was kinda enthusiastic and happy in the iterations I've seen.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 93 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In the comics she has a lot of shit going on. She was 16 when Krypton blew up and was put into hyper sleep before drifting through space. When she woke up her cousin is now older than her and sanctimonious as fuck. She is basically alone and is doing her best and pushing all this down to emulate her cousin and be the role model he established.

She then meets her alternate self in Powergirl and she sees what she could be if she was herself. A whole universe of people started saying "Kara this isn't you" when it really is her finally getting to act like herself. She has a breakdown, joins the Red Lantern Corps, and basically becomes the strongest thing in DC for a few issues. She's incredible.

The apathy is a cool side to see and a side of her that is totally present but never shown. James Gunn is taking some real chances portraying the characters from the comics and not just pop culture echoes.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 11 points 3 days ago

Thank you for the explanation

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Don't forget the time she dated her horse!

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Eh, there have been, like, 4 different Supergirls, and they're all different. Silver age Supergirl is basically just Superman, but a girl. Post-crisis Supergirl is an artificial life form from a pocket universe or something (I forget her whole deal, but she's the worst one). Powergirl is Clark's cousin, but she's from another universe, shows a lot of cleavage, and her weakness is wood.

In 2004, they brought back the classic, "cousin," backstory, but this time changed it so she's a teenager sent to take care of baby Clark, but thanks to a suspended animation mishap, she arrived on Earth when he was in his 30s. Some writers have tried making this version a little more cynical, which makes sense; unlike Clark, she remembers life on Krypton and sees how primitive Earth is in comparison. It's like one those stories where a high-schooler is bitter because their parents moved them from the big city to a podunk town. It's basically Space Footloose, and Supergirl is Space Kevin Bacon.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I enjoyed her in Super Hero Girls where she came across as more annoyed that she had to do anything rather than apathetic. I know it was a kids cartoon but it was still good. I fear this movie will instead showcase her as an apathetic shit head who doesn't care about anything until big moment or love interest etc occurs and then she'll learn her lesson yada yada.

Hollywood can be so boringly predictable it makes me apathetic myself.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I have seen more than one animated films where she is initially a brat and/or just a bitter teen

She winds up (through bad attitude and manipulation as well) as one of the Furies working for Darkside so this "take" is not entirely out of canon

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I haven't followed DC at all, but I suppose it could be a character growth thing through the movie? Or they just got bored with the happy little white girl saving the world, and moving more in the ke$ha direction? Either way, it sound more interresting to me.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If she stays a two-dimensional, apathetic party girl, I’ll be disappointed. I doubt that’s her entire personality, though. Can’t really learn much about a character with 1 minute of screen time.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

What makes you think she'll be two-dimensional? Perhaps she'll be a well fleshed out apathetic party girl.

[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I have hope they draw inspiration from "Supergirl: Woman of tomorrow"

In which case she is drinking and partying to cope with what she lived through after the destruction of kripton

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 15 points 4 days ago

I have hope they draw inspiration from “Supergirl: Woman of tomorrow”

I doubt the choice of book is a coincidence

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Yeah there’s been a few versions like this. If your entire world blew up when you were a teenager and everyone you knew was gone, it would be reasonable to not start off as a chipper person.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have hope they draw inspiration from "Supergirl: Woman of tomorrow"

They've been saying that the movie is based on Woman of Tomorrow for a while now. Trailer came out today and the second scene is her at a space bar (with Krypto, for some reason lol).

She does seem the type to bring her dog with behavioral issues into a bar

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe this is the movie where she learns to take passion in her work and becomes the enthusiastic superhero you know.

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[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 7 points 4 days ago

That's not cool though

[–] JoshsJunkDrawer@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You know it's cool because it says "whatever."

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

There are two things that bother me about this poster:

  1. If she is floating in midair, why does she feel the need to pull one leg up higher than the other?
  2. If her right leg is bent, why doesn’t her coat stick out where her bent knee would be?

It looks like a cheaply-done bad photoshop job where they cropped the right leg and moved it up to make it look bent.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 27 points 4 days ago

One leg higher is a very common pose for flying characters. Her knee doesn't need to stick out very far for this pose, not more than the drape of the coat suggests.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If her right leg is bent, why doesn’t her coat stick out where her bent knee would be?

It's not uncommon when having your hands in the pockets of an open long coat, that the garment is pulled forward, lessening the drape effect that would be expected with a slightly bent leg in this example.

Also, I'm looking at it a bit longer and it seems like a cutout of someone leaning against the wall with their leg up. Look how far forward her left leg is in the opening.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Its that what do you do with your hands thing. What do you do with your legs if they are just hanging there while you are floating. Has this never happened to you? /s

[–] pelley@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

She has to pee.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This will certainly silence all the people who were complaining about Supergirl in the new Superman movie. /s

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

People had a lot of shit to say about the superman movie trailer too, but it was a really good movie that had more emotional impact than the last 10 marvel movies put together.

Im inclined to let them run here, no matter how superficial it looks at first glance.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly I was kind of let down by Superman, considering how much people hyped it up. The first two acts were interesting and had me hooked, but the ending just felt a little flat to me. It definitely felt like a "hold on, we're just getting started" movie rather than something standalone.

I wasn't especially fond of the characterization of Clark's parents, but I think that's just a personal preference and being used to other interpretations (Smallville, DCAU, etc). I do think they worked very well with the tone of the movie.

It also didn't feel particularly dissimilar to most Marvel movies, just with a little better tone and planning.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wasn’t especially fond of the characterization of Clark’s parents

A matter of taste of course but I actually loved them... I hated the Barbie and Ken portrait for red neck farmers... these ones felt like more real "people of the land"

I specially liked the part of his Dad who seemed so physically vulnerable and weakened by age/work/illness giving the biggest emotional push to a figurative Man of Steel

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, and a lot of depictions of the Kent farm have a very Norman Rockwell vibe, with a large two story house, a huge barn/silo, and acres of land. It's very iconic, but also hasn't been the reality for American farmers for at least 50 years. In this movie, the relatively small plot of land and cramped Ranch house felt much more plausible for modern-day Kents.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I was fine with Clark's parents, but bothered that they met Lois for the first time, she stayed overnight, and we got virtually no interaction. Definitely one of the spots where I'd have liked to see some of the screen time given to overlong action scenes or the Justice Whatever reallocated to Superman's supporting cast. I did like the movie overall, though.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

... Barbie and Ken? What does that even mean in this context? Just physical appearance, or something more?

I honestly didn't even consider physical appearance, if that's what you mean. I meant the more simplistic approach to their personality. They were particularly one-note, able to offer a simple home and philosophy, but not much more. It feels very much like they were only meant for one or two scenes and are never meant to be seen again.

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[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Last 10 Marvel movies except for GOTG 3 by the same author.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)
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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even Gun's underdeveloped characters are often rather deep and thought out. Rooker's Caliban from the suicide squad. For a disposable fakeout opening character. Following along with him at the start you get to know a bit about him just watching. Kind of like him a bit even. Then boom! Chum in the waters.

I haven't watched the new season of Peacemaker. But if he can handle anti-heros like he did with season 1. I think Supergirl of in good hands.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Season 2 of Peacemaker is bonkers.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One was a wild enough ride. It's a self. If two somehow managed to be bonkers on top of already bonkers, then it aught to be epic.

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Who gives a fuck what those morons think?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago

We can't wait to read your comments about not having seen it that somehow still have opinions on the quality.

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