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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

[–] Capt_Trav@reddthat.com 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone do the math for me... If theoretically that was all liquid and those 3 got Thanos snapped with the money redistributed, how much would each American get?

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

About $2500 per person

As in 1 trillion / 390 million population

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 14 points 19 hours ago

Damn, when I read this statistic the other day I took it as 'the bottom half has less then the 3 richest persons', but in fact, it is 'three people each have more than the bottom half' holy shit.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The only way it trickles down is the way Charlie Kirk showed us

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

The french really did have a solid way of reminding the upper crust that they were vastly outnumbered by the people they were standing upon...

Remind me. Why are the worlds billionaires all building bunkers? A true mystery.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

there are way more of us than there are of them.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but to them it's super cheap to buy and arm enough of us for their protection.

[–] Overconfidentiality@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I read a thing earlier where Musk was complaining about not feeling safe to go out in public since Kirk was shot. So there's that.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

He also has a financial interest in other rich assholes being afraid.

He started a high-dollar personal security company for right-wing billionaires called Foundation Security.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Love that for him. I hope he never feels safe.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 22 hours ago

As per, the only thing that trickles down is shit, vomit and piss.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 6 points 17 hours ago

What people often forget about trickle-down economics is that wealth only trickles down to named beneficiaries

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's not liquid money though. For each one, the figures mostly represent stock in their own companies which they couldn't pull out without crashing the value. Musk's wealth in particular is mostly air. At least the other two have profitable companies that actually function. In any case, much of it's not real money we could pull out of the bank and spread around. (But we could tax the fucking snot out of them and spread that around!)

But even if they were "only" worth a few 10's of billions, the real issue is that they own the government. And Zuckerberg and Musk own a monster chunk of our social media, control our opinions.

tl;dr: It's not real money and the problem is influence, not total wealth.

[–] Saarth@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (11 children)

This is bullshit.

When it comes to measuring their wealth it's not real money.

But when it comes to calculating GDP and growth and other economic metrics these are still included. Make up your mind, either equities are real money or GDP is made up nonsense.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

When it comes to measuring their wealth it’s not real money.

This is not entirely correct.

As in: it's technically correct, but practically they just use their equity as leverage for loans, turning them into cash without actually touching them. Oh, and since they took on debt, now they get to report that as a loss and get tax breaks. They can pay off the interest from whatever actual money they're earning.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

So then forcibly nationalize their companies if they won’t share the equity in their companies with the workers who built it. Fuck your stupid argument that defends oligarchs

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

"own more" is putting it lightly, they literally own 10 times more than bottom 170 mil people combined

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What’s about the other twelve multi-billionaires that are worth more than $85B? Why were they left out?

[–] EightLeggedFreak@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

It's the "that guy wants your cookie" meme, but billionaires ranked 4th and lower are pointing at these 3.

[–] CtrlAltDefeat@lemmy.zip 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Now, I might be misreading this data, but from what it looks like either one of these billionaires by themselves have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans, right?

[–] SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 22 hours ago

More like one Billionaire own 5.6 times the wealth of the bottom 50%

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, this is phrased like those three just slightly edge out the bottom 50, as opposed to each individually owning significantly greater than the bottom 50. I'm going to assume these three own more than the "bottom" like 85%.

[–] potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 87 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

On Elon Musk, it's funny because he never put a profit, like tesla isn't the biggest, X is draining money, his robotics shits are just that: shit, only spacex is relatively successfull, but it's not on the same level of half trillion dollars.

There isn't much that he's done, all of his companies are making less profits (or losing more money if i'm being correct), he is just a jake paul that fakes being a fake intelligent person.

Edit: Deleted my edit, i'm drunk

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 29 points 1 day ago

Yeah, its ironic. The richest man in the world doesn't have a single truly profit-making venture under him.

How the bubble around him hasn't burst yet I don't know, but it would certainly be a feast for sore eyes.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The weird thing is that these people don't think they're rich enough and want to extract more money from government and the people, and they simultaneously think that the government gives too much money to poor people.

[–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They race to who will be the first trillionaire. It's disgusting. Meanwhile children are starving.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Three bullets could do so much for this country

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

We already have Musk acting like his own personal country, making personal deals with world leaders that benefit only himself over other nations. Others are probably doing it, too, but we haven't heard about it.

Now these Sociopathic Oligarchs are heading to trillionaire status, and they WILL be founding their own Corporo-Nations, which will require private armies for security. Eventually, these Corporo-Nations will combine to form their own alliance, combine their armies, and start throwing their weight around militarily, as well as economically.

This is all just a matter of time, and then we're going to wonder as a planet, Why we didn't stop those guys back when we had a chance?

I have no doubt at all that ALL of them have violated many laws, in many sectors, to get as rich as they are. Investigate them deeply, prosecute them for their crimes, and confiscate their entire fortunes. If we don't do that, it is absolutely certain that we will come to regret it.

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It will trickle down any second now

No, no. A little while yet.

They've got to get enough to cover

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

first. THEN it'll trickle down. For super super sure.

Trust them. Maybe they care.

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[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Dragonslayer is an occupation that needs a comeback

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't forget that shithead larry Ellison. He's worth 200b right now.

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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago

Any place that allows this to happen is a bad place.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Not to mention that the top owner owns more than the second and third combined...

[–] leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Honestly stop being poor dudes, just ask your father for some millions to get started and start exploiting people, easy

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[–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

This is so disgusting.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It works like a piñata - if we beat it open with a club, only then will its contents trickle down.

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