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A series of events in the past few weeks has undercut what little power Johnson ever had among his fellow Republicans in the House. GOP representatives – the group that he theoretically leads – are so angry that they publicly call him names. Republicans are using parliamentary procedures to get votes on bills that Johnson doesn’t want to bring to the floor.

Incumbents panicking over the potential to lose their seats, in a Democratic landslide, are blaming Johnson for their problems. He has to make promises he must know he can’t keep to get bills passed. And Donald Trump is doing nothing to help Johnson in his time of need.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I have a feeling his successor will be even worse.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Exactly, Mike Johnson is awful, but they'll just elect another idiot. Republicans have lost it completely, and are incapable of decency.

Worse or better on policy, I think the next speaker won't publicly fellate Trump nearly as much, which is notable.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when it took the Pedo Party FIFTEEEN FUCKING TRIES to elect Kevin McCarthy speaker, only to oust him like 10 months later?

These bumbling chucklefucks simply cannot govern.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 14 hours ago

They don't want to "govern". Or lead, or improve, or legislate. They want to control everything, hurt minorities, and give even more money to their rich friends. And they're willing to burn everything to do it...

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good. Fuck that guy. Hopefully he can retire to spend more time with his family.

For example, watching his son jerk off or whatever.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

Oh are those the gay porn accountability duo?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Maybe Trump's plan is to eject Johnson, get Republicans in the House to elect him to be Speaker, hold both positions at the same time (because who's gonna tell him he can't? His handpicked Supreme Court?), then simply refuse to acknowledge the results of the election if it goes South for him.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck it, does the constitution say you have to be a different person from the vice president? Might as well go for the trifecta

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please someone give me a reason he can't nominate himself to the Supreme Court if a seat is vacant.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

There's technically no such thing as a "vacant" seat. The constitution dictates a Supreme Court and justices but not how many. They could nominate and seat twenty more justices tomorrow.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

I mean it would be fucking awful but somehow it would be wonderfully true to the sentiment history rhymes, as Hitler combined the chancellor position and the presidency in Germany together and was from then on the Führer.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like Huey P. Long did something very similar to this. We'll see how it all plays out for the president.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully it ends the same way. Soon.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

With two generations of his family members coming in after and stealing everything that isn't nailed down?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's precedent that says nobody can hold two elected offices at the same time. Does that apply to the speakrship?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Didn't the USSC say that the president isn't an office though? I want whatever drugs they on

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Precedent? What’s that? I think Donald John Trump just nominated himself to the Supreme Court and the Senate is slated to approve it.

What’s that you say? They can’t do that? Well Chief Justice Trump says it’s constitutional.

Edit: On a serious note, Speaker is not an elected position. IIRC it’s all made up and the House can choose however they want, including games of chance.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is literally elected but ok

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

It’s chosen by the members of the house, however they see fit. Majority vote by members is just how they chose to do it:

“Clause 5 Impeachment The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.”

It is not an election by the people

Of course they are. That's how calendars work.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Numbered days? I don’t know anything about that.

-Mike Johnson, of fed gov’t leadership

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

A couple of hours after Trump laughed when asked about it and said, "yeah, he's a loser. Everyone hates him.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

That's how calendars work. Tomorrow's the 16th mikathan

[–] X@piefed.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Donald Trump is doing nothing to help Johnson in his time of need.

Nor should he. Mike knew what he was doing when he signed up to be Drowsy Don’s little bitch, he should be treated as the little bitch he is. Don’t be like Mike.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

On the bright side, he and his son can finally be together the way they've always wanted.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

🎶There's no sunshine til he's gone

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

~~Donald Trump~~Mike Johnson's days are number!

I gotta once again ask every pundit who is convinced the Speaker is on his way out... who did the GOP plan to replace him with? Like, the entire appeal of Johnson is that he's a mediocre compromise who offends nobody in the Republican House Caucus. He never had much power to begin with, which is why the House legislative output in 2025 has been relatively lackluster.

At the same time, getting votes on bills in the House that are unlikely to survive the floor and will inevitably fail (or simply be ignored) in the Senate isn't a problem for Johnson. The biggest benefit of being Speaker - for Johnson anyway - is the pay and benefits, as he is one of the poorest House Speakers in history.

Forbes estimates that Mike Johnson’s net worth is in the ballpark of $350,000, making him the least wealthy speaker of the century (along with being the least experienced). For comparison, Johnson’s predecessor Kevin McCarthy owned an investment portfolio in the six figures and former speaker Paul Ryan had assets in the millions. On the left, Nancy Pelosi’s net worth has been pegged at nearly $250 million, eclipsing them all.

Johnson’s congressional salary is $174,000.

Johnson got a roughly $50,000 raise to be Speaker of the House, earning $223,000 per year.

I'm sure I'm not the first person to remark upon Johnson being one of the dumbest men to hold the job. Even former gym coach and child sex predator Denny Hastert figured out how to make a few million under the table during his tenure.

I just don't see any strong reason for as useful an idiot as Johnson to leave his post, unless someone who can make better use of the position can step up. In a legislature that's increasingly irrelevant to the running of the federal government, there's very little appetite for a Strong Speaker and very little profit in failing to negotiate changes to legislation on your party's behalf.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

Punditry pays well and Cox Media Group seems to own a lot of outlets.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump has always been somehow untouchable, but the same could never be said about Johnson, and he makes a great fall guy for everyone's ire at Trump.

But the key here is, no one in congress on either side really wants Johnson to be in line for the presidency should Trump's health issues, or pedophillia, finally catch up to him. Especially with the couch fucker around and not being popular except with Nazis.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't think the problem with Johnson is untouchable. I just think he's in the role because there's nobody better to replace him with.

Also, I just don't think "Trump dying in office" is a serious part of anyone's math.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is 79 and lives on fast food cheeseburgers. He also appears to be on dementia slowing drugs.

Everyone has plans for if Trump croaks in office. Not having those plans is irresponsible.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump is 79 and lives on fast food cheeseburgers. He also appears to be on dementia slowing drugs.

He's got the best health care money can buy and a team of doctors ready to do a triple bypass at the drop of a dime.

He'll live to be 100.

Not having those plans is irresponsible.

Of course. Republicans are famous thinking long term

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

First, the best doctors in the world can't help an unwilling patient.

And again, the dementia drugs. Those are not even 50% effective. They actually sit at about 30% and that's the best we've got.

But thinking that people aren't quietly talking about what to do when Trump croaks, or can't be paraded around anymore... That's just a fantasy.

Everyone is talking about Trump's health. Well, everyone except his most delusional supporters, but they're busy photoshopping his head on a fit body.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

First, the best doctors in the world can’t help an unwilling patient.

Trump's a hypochondriac and has never been shy about taking preventative steps for his health. He was first in line for the COVID shot and first in line to get paxlovid when he became infected.

And again, the dementia drugs.

This has been the subject of endless, unverified speculation. Trump's old, not particularly smart, and regularly in meetings that leave him bored out of his mind. Its trivial to get a picture of him half-awake and drooling, then claim you can diagnose medical conditions with a cell phone camera that doctors struggle to categorize with a CAT scan.

But thinking that people aren’t quietly talking about what to do when Trump croaks

I'm not suggesting nobody is talking. I'm stating that Mike Johnson's position as House Speaker has nothing to do with his perceived capability as successor to the successor to the President. Nevermind the fact that Speaker of the House is also a powerful bureaucratic position. Why would you give a shit about Trump dropping into a coma, JD Vance getting - what? - hit by a lightning bolt, I guess? And then this thing that has never happened in 250 years of US History happening in the next three years.

Everyone is talking about Trump’s health.

Every Lib has been talking about how Trump could croak any second, because they're coked up on Copium and have zero faith in the next round of elections.

Conservatives think you could drop a bomb on Trump's head and God would step in to stop it.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 1 day ago

I'm still not convinced. I'm also accustomed to being wrong, but we'll see.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Is it time to set up a lettuce?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thr cap of the pen I chew on hasn't been the speaker of the house. It's open to the idea if anyone is interested.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

It certainly would be more qualified than this asshole.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago

Another dog and pony show. He will be well compensated.

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 day ago

This party really operates like a legion of saturday morning cartoon villains who are all at the table, bickering at who is at fault for the crumbling reach that they had.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Gosh, this gaslighting little elf might not be Speaker any more?

Where are my pearls, I must clutch them.

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe they'll bring back that other guy, wish.com Gavin newsom, I forget his name.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Oh no how unfortunate.