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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

That sucks when the dice roll for you this badly, but just as a number, 15 is practically nothing. Millions of people drive a Tesla every day.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Sure but WHY THE HELL do door handles not open the door. It makes no sense and how this ever passed any safety comity in any country is beyond me.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

i'll stick to my Civic -The peoples car.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

but there's not even a summary or link to the analysis in this article? where's the fucking data?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

For a while, long before Teslas were around, my wife went through a phase where she didn't want a car with electronic door locks, "in case we crash into a retention pond."

So it came time for a new car, and while I'm talking with the sales people about price and such, all she wants to know is if she can get it without electronic locks. It seemed like she'd pay double if it didn't have the e-locks.

Finally I said, "I've never gone into a retention pond, and I don't know anyone who has ever gone into a retention pond. It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS! Let's try that solution first. if you go into a retention pond, then we'll discuss getting rid of e-locks."

It's been about 30 years, and I still don't know anyone whose gone into a retention pond, including my wife. But she still mentions the lock thing whenever we get a new car.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

But electronic locks don't stop you from opening the door. Or it shouldn't I pull the handle door opens up.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS

The premise of this logic is wholesale problematic.

You can use the same logic and say:

The real solution to seat belts is to just not wreck your car

The real solution to stair rails is to just not fall down stairs

The real solution to fire alarms is to just not light your building on fire

...etc

Same reasoning/logical framework applied to different problem areas.

[–] StewNasty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

The real solution to poverty is just not being poor.

Now where's my Nobel Peace Prize?

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[–] ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Don't tell your wife, but there are whole youtube channels on this. They go around searching for missing people in bodies of water. They find more missing people than I would've thought.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

How many of them crashed in there vs how many were dumped after being murdered?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

if you watch those videos most of them are the former category. The other common thread is that it often happens at night. They're usually found by the private investigators retracing the suspected routes of the missing person and then using a drone to scope out bodies of water along those routes -That alone is often enough to find people that went missing twenty+ years ago

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)
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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

there are all sorts of people that have gone into retention ponds only once in there life.They didn't come back out alive.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Which is hilarious because:

A. Virtually all electronic locks can ^also^ be operated manually.

  1. By the time you're deep enough to prevent operating electronic locks, that door is not going to open, simply because of the pressure differential.
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