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Unpopular Opinion
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6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
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Edited
Title and post context are having a hard time coexisting with eachother.
Kids, especially toddlers, will leave a smell all over furniture. Cleaning becomes an even worse chore due to feeding time messes and crayons on the wall. They also require potty training in order to not shit themselves and then rub it onto everything lying around the house.
Seiously, toddlers belong outside...
My cat does leave a strong smell. It has become my favorite smell.
Cats are healthier and live longer when kept indoors.
Local wildlife are healthier and live longer when cats are kept indoors, too.
Upvoted for the opinion being unpopular.
Cats don't belong outside. They will kill local wildlife and have contributed to the extinction of dozens of species.
I don't think fish care either way as long as they get the space and care they need. That is, a tiny pond outside isn't any better than a tank of the same volume indoors, all other things being equal.
Rodents definitely belong inside, if having a rodent as a pet is allowed at all in this scenario. I feel like this doesn't require further explanation.
I could see rabbits liking being outside, as long as they're adequately protected from predators. They do well inside, too. I'd call this one 50:50.
If reptiles and amphibians should be kept as pets at all, indoors is way better.
I imagine almost all invertebrate pets would have to be indoors.
Pets that are livestock species go outside, yeah. No argument here.
Some animals shouldn't be pets at all. Some belong inside. Some belong outside. Some go in and out. It's a mixed bag.
Upvoted and upvoted. It's weird that in c/UO, a truly extremely unpopular opinion gets downvoted!
It should be in the top few of all time!
It's tempting, it's really tempting. It's easy not to downvote an unpopular opinion, but when it's a really fucking stupid opinion as well.... Ooooh I really wanna push that button.
Pets that are livestock species go outside, yeah. No argument here.
Well, they should have a cozy barn if they’re pets. If they’re really pets, with HVAC and all.
Agreed. I generally think of "Indoors" as meaning "within the home" in this case.
I do too, but I’ve seen where some people keep their horses and would gladly move in!
Wow that is an unpopular opinion
Right? I'm trying to imagine a similar but even less popular one.
Maybe, "People should have to earn a PhD in Veterinary Medicine and have published post doctoral work in the particular species they keep as pets."
Upvoted because unpopular but I personally think youre a boring person. Sure, animals smell but thats why you clean them and your house. Id rather clean my house 5 times a week than not have my dogs.
I'd rather visit someone who's given a loving home to a cat/dog/whatever than someone who lives in a boring, sterile, oderless, pristine home. Children are smelly and messy and destructive too, but people have always managed with them! Clean after your pet regularly, and live life rather than perfection. They're worth it...
Terribly unpopular and stupid opinion. Have an upvote
At some point in your life, you also required training to make sure you didn't destroy the furniture or shit on the floor
Cleaning is part of the care. I guess that's just what the deal is though
Some people think animals shouldn't live indoors. It's worth reminding those people that humans are animals
We should spend a lot more time outside, too
well then the outside should be nicer
Outside would be nicer if we stopped hating the unhoused.
Yes, we absolutely should.
Cats ESPECIALLY belong inside because they decimate the local wildlife.
Upvoted, because you’re totally incorrect.
Are you advocating for the somewhat extreme position that pets shouldn’t exist?
Your reasoning suggests that basic duties of pet ownership such as basic training and grooming are too onerous. Canids do not soil their den in the wild and so easily are trained not to soil indoors, and cats don’t need training to use a litter box.
Your reasoning simply seems to reflect the need for additional training and effort on the part of the pet owner. That’s not “reasoning” so much as bitching. Pets do perfectly well in human dwellings, so long as care and effort are taken to make it so. It kind of sounds like you shouldn’t own an indoor pet. That’s fine for you. Stop telling other people what to do when they may well be more caring and/or less lazy than you.
Why tho?
I mean many pets shouldn't live in a small apartment. Few pets are ok with it. Some pets are okay with living in bigger apartments but then it's more about giving enough enrichment and outdoor or balcony time it it fits the pet
That exact same reasoning applies to humans as well, but we still let them into the house. However, though from a very weird direction, you have certainly landed on an unpopular opinion.
Dumps fish tank outside
Sorry, but pets do not belong inside homes.
This is an ignorant take in that it doesn't in any way address the emotional benefits of having animals in your living space, or offer any justification for why the costs that are asserted could be worth accepting, or the fact that plenty of animals adapt well to smaller spaces. Don't like cleaning fur? Get short haired animals. Kids need training too, and plenty of human adults have no idea how to properly clean up after themselves. If you don't like animals that's fine, but don't try to perscribe your needs onto others based solely on these grounds, you can just say I don't like pets and that's acceptable.
Upvoted because I do disagree, where else they gonna go?
cats outside are a menace, for example. Responsible thing to do is keep them inside.
Don't come over.
Soooooo. You’re gatekeeping other people’s apartments?
Here’s your upvote.
Pets deserve better than to live in shitty cramped spaces like we are forced to
What if it's a really sexy one?
Checkmate OP!!
If by that you meant "I don't like the effect pets have on my living spaces", sure, of course, and you don't have to get one/let them inside if the weather's okay!
How dare you. My cat is an angel and I'm lucky to get to clean her fur.
I agree - I think it's mean that people keep dogs, for instance, when they're leaving them unattended for most of the day. Personally I wouldn't get a dog unless I had family, a house and a garden for it. Cats have a bit more leeway but I would still want them to have a nice neighbourhood or gardens to explore.
Of course a dog should be activated physically and have attention, but it'd also be cruelty to keep it awake and active all day long.
Dogs sleep a lot. They need 12-14 hours every day, and even up to 20 hours for puppies or old dogs.
This fits very well with being left unattended while the kids are at school for instance.
It's better to leave it unattended for one long stretch than several shorter ones daily, because dogs do keep track of time based on routines. Coming in and out several times, or taking the dog along randomly is more stressful for it, because it breaks the routine.
They're very adaptable and teachable, so many things are possible, but it should definitely be taught to chill out by itself, so it's capable of this when you actually need it to be alone for some reason.
Thats the main argument for me. I keep hearing neighbors dogs barking alone all day, it seems so sad to me...