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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago

Musk makes a product so shitty even China is like, hold up.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good, it's such an incredibly stupid design. Literally no one was bothered by a slight handle for better UX.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why not have those plastic handles on the sides of the doors that don't stick out? They could even have covers for them.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

When even China has to ban your product due to safety concerns, you've probably made some seriously bad design choices somewhere along the line.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Next can we outlaw touchscreens? I'm guessing they are far more dangerous in the end.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think often about that GM and Volvo paid Virginia Tech a lot of money to help them design a safe touchscreen infotainment center and after years of research the researchers basically reached the conclusion "there's no safe way to put a touchscreen in a car" and now we all have touchscreens in our cars

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, there's also no safe touchscreen on a mobile phone, and one would think a main personal mobile communication device should have the least disruptable user interface possible.

A stylus makes some sense, it's a more convenient tool for drawing on a screen. But touchscreens must die.

I'm trying to dial someone or do anything at all in a dark place, I have to look with my eyes at a burning screen (notably with some crappy flat design of all UI elements, as is custom today) and try to hit it with my fingers. My fingers notably come from factory without backlight or auto-aim.

I could just remember which key is which, and rely on my tactile feeling to find them.

I'm trying to do anything at all in frosty weather (that kind when you feel like scratching your skin, normal winter, minus 10 Celsius is enough to feel that), I have to take off my glove and try to hit whatever with my fingers which become obviously clumsier under such temperatures.

And I can't simultaneously do something and look at the display, because I'm poking my fingers at that display to do something!

And it's easier to do something you didn't intend.

I hope everything with a touchscreen dies as a consumer good, similarly to young nuclear scientist kits for toddlers, asbestos roof tiles, lead paint, you get the idea. Some things are bad.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We wouldn't even need to ban them outright. Just ban the usage for important things like windscreenwipers and climate control.

VW thankfully is making the move backwards on their own.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

“From the ID 2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions – the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light – below the screen,” 

Climate controls are one but sure, five most important functions. Honestly rip out the touch screen, implement buttons just as they had been previously then add the display; preferably with a decent HID as Mazda have done. 

I'm still driving a mk6 golf and really can't imagine not having easy access to those features. 

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck Musk and Fuck Swasticars!

There's no excuse left for driving one except having bought it before this year.

Buying Tesla is funding fascism and corruption. All Musk companies need breaking up!

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Glances nervously at Ford, BMW, VW, Mitsubishi, etc...

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Well yeah that's true. I'm driving an 18 year old second hand VW myself... the fuckers do keep running.

I could never afford a Tesla anyway even if I wanted one - I'm glad to say I always hated them as cars.

But ugh... Musk literally did the Hitler salute, twice to make sure, on live TV, and he is responsible for the real-time deaths of millions of people.

We can't always do much about politicians but when it comes to business fucks like him, we can dismantle that bastard and his companies everywhere they exist... including in space!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can China ban retina burning headlights, rear facing floodlights and aftermarket exhausts now?

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[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 228 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As they should, stupid over complicated and absolutely failure ridden unnecessary design. kinda like this poorly worded statement

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Musk nearly bankrupted Tesla when he insisted that the door handles must be flush after stealing the company from its original founders.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

I mean, "stealing" is a strong word. Elon bought them out, and they're both enjoying a net worth in the hundreds of million.

What's more disturbing about Elon's tenure as head of the company is how social media manipulation, insider trading, and blatant SEC violations can pump a company's valuation into the stratosphere.

Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard both continued to contribute advances in engineering that far exceeded the Tesla project. But they'll never have the kind of easy credit Elon secured through politics and media manipulation. So don't expect to see them included among the ranks of "billionaire" any time soon.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

"Bought them out" is a weak word too though. He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before "salaries"

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

I have long observed that moving parts, particularly involving motors, are destined to give me grief as a car ages. The difference is that little motorized interior luxuries aren't going to prevent people from pulling my unconscious body out of a burning wreck, while these door handles have for dozens of people

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 132 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Should not have allowed them in the first place.

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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

More great news fot Tesla stock!

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago
[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?

Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

The handles themselves freeze down and won't pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why do need this in the first place? So a 2 ton SUV can be 0.0058% more aerodynamic?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm not shocked major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.

Give that to a team of 90's Honda engineers and they'd have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh those Honda engineers would have laughed and laughed. "Aluminum chassis and plastic body support?!" I can hear them say through hysterics.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don't want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Common China W

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Must be nice having a functional government

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Americans are going to mandate retractable handles in response

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