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[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 136 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The OOP boilerplater is the only one with a job.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 128 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Imperative stonager works there too. You've just never seen him because he hasen't accepted a meeting invite is 14 years.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 days ago

You've just never seen him because he hasen't accepted a meeting invite is 14 years.

And counting!

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I like the functional parts of C♯, though.

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This. I've been writing some game mods in it recently and LINQ is... pretty nice. switch expressions, too.

This is coming from a dude formerly from the "OOP Boilerplater" camp, though, so maybe I just have low standards.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

LINQ is... pretty nice.

Seriously. Want monads? LINQ is monads!

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 52 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Watches Computerphile, thinks it's actual programming

What is this even supposed to imply

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm kinda confused by that one too—Computerphile is CS theory, not software engineering.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 18 points 5 days ago

I think, the point is Haskell is more CS theoretical than practical language and anyone who uses it (or any other FP) has never written a single line of production code (the last statement is even in the meme)

Personally, I love that series. I guess whoever made this meme thinks people who watch the show are trying to implement their code examples in production.

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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the author is a MacBook user.

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Imperative stoneagers getting an old MacBook from somewhere and going "huh, I guess its UNIX" is probably true though

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was triggered at every panel, it's unacceptable!

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I hope no one got left unoffended

[–] dantel@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

The imperative stoneager feels like the most favored one, there are no real negatives listed there. All that’s listed are things they usually pride themselves on.

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

history | grep -E '(sed|grep|awk|perl)' | wc -l 107

Dang. That's out of 1000. I need to up my game. Also three of those seds are part of something with a -basedir and don't count.

So yeah, about 10% of my commands are iterating shell pipe things for poops and giggles, I guess.

... and this got me going down the rabbit hole of writing a filter for my history to pull out the first command on the line. This is non-trivial because of potential preceding variable assignments. Most used commands are currently apt and man and ls. I think apt is a Spiders Georg situation because the system is fairly fresh and I keep finding things that I haven't installed yet. Also I went through a patch of trying to parse its output.

... oh, er... unga bunga.

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[–] potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Hear me out:

Mixing OOP and functional code to abstract the shit out of everything making 5k loc in around 500 loc in java. You can do magic using this trick.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Functional programming in Java is kind of an afterthought and it shows. That's one of the reasons why Scala was created!

[–] Custodian6718@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean Yeah it is an afterthought in the Sense of that Java was Originally an oop Language but fp in Java was added on very sensibly imo. I use functional Programming in Java a Lot and try to make Everything immutable where I can and honestly coding like that feels clean and very practical.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The FP in Java is still leagues better than whatever the C++ committee cooked up.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Just let C++ die already, and stop pretending it's a reasonable thing to compare other languages with.

If you can't do it in C, you are better in Java, Python, Haskell, whatever.

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[–] potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, Scala is the GOAT, but while I can't use, why not final everything, use 300 streams and pass Suppliers around?

(I'm building a lot of libraries at work)

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[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't belong to any of the above. Am I even a programmer at this point?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I belong to all of them. Same question.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You've transcended programming

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[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Proud imperative stoneager here 🦍

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[–] andioop@programming.dev 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

OOP boilerplater except for the Windows bit; trying to slowly move off proprietary software and choose open source when I can

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Same honestly, it's a hustle to convince the Java EE dinosaurs of new paradigms. Never going back to Micro$lop though.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Functional streams are a good start

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Oh, I guess I'm a stoneager with a penchant for functional elitism then.

Though I will admit OOP is valid for involved data modelling, everything else should be functional though.

I've also trained myself out of most short variable names for maintainability reasons

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Outside of the for loop counters i and j, short variable names are awful. Coming back to old code written with abr var nams is like talking to someone in the military who just constantly throws out jargon and acronyms that they know you don't know.

But so are Java style ObserverFactoryManagerTemplateMachinistTemplater names.

There's a sweet middle ground of short, but actually descriptive name. Sometimes it's not possible but that's usually a code organization / language / framework smell.

Too short variable names is usually a sign that you need to use a proper ide, with auto complete, or that you need to use a proper build process that will minify your code after the fact.

Too long names are usually a sign that your module of code (function, class, namespace, etc) is too large, or that your language/framework naming conventions are too strict, or the language doesn't encapsulate scope properly.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Outside of the for loop counters i and j, short variable names are awful.

I’ve started to prefer writing it out as ”index” or ”iteration” even in for loop counters. It’s easier to read, and not much harder to type.

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[–] freohr@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Uses neovim with gruvbox theme on arch

Damn, why are you calling me out personally? Though I use it to write python scripts and LaTeX, not rust...

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Writes code on paper to avoid side effects" - ROFL

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

Programming would be great, if it wasn't for computers (and users, too, but those would stay away without the damn computers).

(Don't get me wrong, I love computers, they're great, as long as they stay turned off.)

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

More like mix and match your path lmao.

[–] ArrowMax@feddit.org 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just finished an assignment for uni: Memory safety in Rust: Mechanisms and limits - a comparison to C/C++.

Fuck.

Great overview of Rust's weaknesses and strengths:

Li et al. 2024 Rust for Linux: Understanding the Security Impact of Rust in the Linux Kernel

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[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been shifting around, but never to the OOP boilerplater. I despise Java.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

ocaml and haskell and erlang power like... a shitton of industry production code. If erlang software disappeared, internet dies for a bit until people replace all the broken routers.

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

The functional elitist is actually running Yi in XMonad on Guix.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago
  • this post was made by the imperative stoneager gang

Someone explain the Rustacean failing to support MacOS.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

That's such a way to dismiss the theory and academia

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Vim is life. And use good variable names.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there a panel for the pragmatist that just goes with what works, with open source strongly preferred?

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No, because the whole point of this meme is to be entirely devoid of nuance. Functional programming is fucking awesome if product is changing its mind every 5 mins, Oop is great if you have a huge number of junior Devs, rust isn't remotely slow so god knows what bottom right is about, top left probably has more functionality defects than you can shake a stick at but he's lionised here. Don't think too hard about it -- OP didn't (also 'never bashes python or JavaScript'? Absolute weaksauce. Perl and PHP are the ones ppl bash because of entry level dev memes. Embarrassed for op)

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