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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/58978579

The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation

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[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

70% of Americans believe in angels. If you take the extreme end of that statistic you can just insert any crazy belief.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

What percentage want another country to take over the US? If that question isn't in that survey then its meaningless. Which it probably still would be no matter what. Most surveys target certain demographics to get the answers they want.

[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

17% of Americans have read 'Night Probe' by Clive Cussler and think it's a history book.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Probably 15% of those don't know what annex means

[–] ArchLand@szmer.info 1 points 8 hours ago

You propably meant about 88% of them.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Considering you can get 30% of americans to agree with anything on a poll, 17% must be like the amount of americans who think like "autonomous" means "automobile maker" or something and are too embarrassed/overconfident to ask for clarification.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fucking hell that's too high. They've been nothing but an excellent neighbor to us and they want to remain sovereign. This is just a demand for a forever war against old friends that will also result in us actually being attacked on our own soil for once. Because yeah, they know where our bases are and if we're invading they're going to use their modern military.

In fact, I'm angry at the term annex here. Annex is a word that feels neutral and like it could be bloodless, the word in question is invade or go to war with. Going to war with Canada would result in attacks on our cities. Civilians will die on both sides for no fucking gain. Billions of dollars in infrastructure will be wiped out for good reason and that's all assuming that nato stays neutral, which they've made pretty clear isn't the case. We need to start talking here with the people in our lives about how that's what "annexing" canada looks like, and make damn sure that we get into the 90+% range vociferously opposing this bullshit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think even many Canadians don't think it through. If we survive the initial invasion we will be deprived of education, healthcare, freedom of movement, democratic representation, autonomy, resources like water and electricity, employment and money. Some of us would be pulled out of our homes and disappeared or killed, particularly if we're vocal critics of the USA. We would be closely watched and guarded and met with violence at the first sign of resistance or noncompliance. Our children would be indoctrinated in school. Our scientific institutions would be shut down. Our friends and family, particularly anyone who is not a straight white cis Christian conservative, will be in constant danger. It won't be just an administrative handover that allows Canadians to get on with their lives. It will be brutal and punitive.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Which is why violent, disruptive resistance would be the norm. I'm talking making the Taliban look like a relief organization. I would happily make sure Americans fear for their lives every second of every day if it ever came to that and I know Im not alone in that. If I had to die as a result, as long as I take out 10 Americans before I do I'd die happy.

In other words, terrorize the fuckers until they go home.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We would, but what other choice would we have if if happened? Just kowtow to the US? Fuck that. Would it suck and make everything horrible? Yes, but not like Ukraine had an option when their war started.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

We need to figure out how a smallish, largely unarmed population could make a large, heavily armed force wish they had never met us.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

25 pc of the president's base is evangelical. They want chaos, war, misery, to hasten the second coming (of angry vengeful jesus, none of that weak ass new testament bullshit,) where the faithful, them, get brought to heaven and the world drowns in lakes of blood and fire.

These people believe in nothing to advance the common good, the common good to them is pain, strife, and the end of the world.

Naturally they see the president and his puppet master in Israel making US and UK swells dance waving around tapes of them fucking children with epstein as a gift from god to bring on this rapture.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 123 points 1 day ago (3 children)

17% of Americans can throw themselves directly into a volcano.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

pretty sure they'd need assistance on that, so, eh. you know.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

NGL I'd want Canada to annex us.

I'm in the PNW, it's a fairly common sentiment around here.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm from MN, same here. Especially since the federal government despises us so much.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I want Canada, Denmark, or almost anyone else to annex the US west coast.

Maybe Canada could trade Alberta with the US in exchange for Oregon, Washington, and California.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is questionable. Partially because the knuckle draggers who support trump largely wouldn't know what the word annex means.

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[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

17 percent of Americans need lobotomies.

[–] pwalshj@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They seem to be way ahead of you

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah lobotomies are redundant for those morons.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

American here - I wish we would

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

17% of Americans are abjectly stupid

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Nah, they are evangelical. Even worse.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're in the justifying war goal against Canada part of the event chain

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So many US sources say shit like "only 17 %" as if this is a low value. It's infuriating

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was always kinda hopin' Canada would annex us instead.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

I've traveled to a few states and I think some of them would make fantastic provinces. Some of them have people very kind and friendly, and I like to think that fits well with Canadians.

Set it up! If you can get orange daddy to sign off on it (convince him it'll sway the vote to be more red with fewer blue in there) we'll be set!

You like bacon? You ever had sortilege?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

bacon and sortilege both sound nice.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

The top half of VT is basically Canada, heck a lot of them speak french already.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Even if 100 percent of then wanted to they still wouldn't have a moral claim over it.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Is it bad if I want Canada to annex Minnesota? (where I happen to live.)

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile I'm sitting here wishing Canada would annex the U.S.

Or at least New England. Not even the whole of New England. They can leave Connecticut behind. That may be better for everyone.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is the amount of people we will have to disenfranchise when this is over. Probably just limit their rights to vote or enter in to a contract. Make sure they have no authority over anyone, especially a minor. The enemy of peace and stability has exposed themselves in the US and we have to render them harmless.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

These are clearly people with untreated traumatic head injuries. It would make sense to provide these people with better healthcare and reintroduce them into society when they can understand words or communicate that they don't understand words.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Where in the world do you arrive at head injury? These people lack empathy and any moral compass. They are of low intellgence. The are just mean and they spread hate and pain with anyone they contact. They create chaos and sow discord.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

One of the main side effects of head injuries is uncontrolled anger.

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the problem with democracy. If you truly believe in democracy, then everyone's voices need to be heard.

Punishment won't work. We need to systematically change education to make any lasting difference.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

No. Not every voice needs to be heard. In a democracy, every voice should have the same opportunity to be heard. By saying every voice needs to be heard, you are saying everyone should listen to the fucknuts and assholes.

No.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Nope there have always been people who didn't get to vote or participate. I'm just proposing we do that to the ones who are the problem.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The percentage of Americans– actually humans in general– who’re are just utterly irredeemably idiotic is above 17% in my estimation. So coming in less than that is a win in my book.

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[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And how many percent of them hesitated to say that they agree with that?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Only 66% were against, so you can safely assume that other 34% all really think we should but some of them just were smart enough not to say it out loud.

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