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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

mastodon is also european.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 4 hours ago

Europe is trying to lock down the internet, connect everything said, every page viewed, to every account and ip by id and likeness, into databanks and combine it and every other piece of information on you to run through half baked ai threat detection to create secret social scores.

So you can yay getting rid of x, you are still surrendering to tech, to palantir type companies making those social scores. Hope you support Israel, aren't an environmental protester for starters. Better correct your wrongthinks europe.

But the kids, we have to institute mandatory colonoscopies to protect them, nevermind those kids will fall victim en masse to the surveillance state past despots couldn't even dream of, run by the worst people.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

requiring user identification and photo verification to prevent bots

Can't wait until the next next big thing: "F", for "Fuck you".

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I know that's not going to be popular around here, but I am kind of curious what an "everyone is a confirmed user" social media site would actually look like, compared to the "whoever has the most bots gets shoved to the top of the rankings" cesspool we have now.

Social media was a mistake. We should have stuck to small forums. Same with real life tbh. Shit, have I become an anarchist now?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

Government will still have bots though, you will be at their mercy, and any disagreement they can retaliate in ways that aren't apparent to you that you will never be able to prove. Hell they could even use secret social scores from their all encompassing surveillance they are trying to implement right now to decide what information your search pages are allowed to show you, to affect what prices you pay online, to decide if you get that job, that loan. If the police watch you, if they charge you, how hard the courts hit you.

With peter thiels owned corporations making those social scores.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Bots will simply use a random id card from the millions of stolen ids

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It would probably be the same content-wise. The bots are put there by people that wants to push an agenda. If we somehow reach a point where such a network with only live, confirmed humans exists, they'll still push their points I guess. After all, we already see prominent account posting batshit crazy thing under their real name, so that would not change much.

And, yeah. It's not really being an anarchist to think smaller, closer spaces are a good idea. Worldwide, almost universal social connection all the time, even without the constant barrage of garbage, is bound to completely overload our brain. Focusing on smaller communities, hand in these for a limited/controlled duration, things that actual matters, sounds really nice. It's more of a "technical minimalism", if we keep things digital.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky's original "invite only but each person can invite" makes way more sense for bot management than "requiring photo identification" that can't be verified and can be generated by ai.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 5 hours ago

Interestingly they're basing it off the Bluesky atproto architecture. Seems like they're keeping controlled sign-ups and setting the appview to only index (and only display) their own users.

And if they don't break protocol compatibility, others could have a "read-only view" of their network from servers / clients that federate (comparable to a lemmy server which would reject incoming messages but still let you browse)

[–] Affidavit@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

requiring user identification and photo verification

And so they've failed before they've begun.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

These are the same guys trying to institute chatcontrol and age verification to identify everyone to every account, to Tech, that would share it with them in government. Trying to surrender their citizens to tech and "AI," they don't think they will fail because they think they will be locking down society into a dystopian surveillance state where wrongthink will be crushed, enlightenment and age of reason be damned.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago

Site doesn't load

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LupertEverett@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

They should have named it Wayland...

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago

W - EU I guess😭

[–] kbal@fedia.io 169 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be

Kind of them to get that out of the way in the first sentence. No further reading required.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Lol, why not blood samples? IDs and photos can be faked by AI but not blood...yet.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Honestly, I prefer this.

I can stand behind my words.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Lol, why not blood samples?

Could just mail in a stool sample.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I refuse to use anything that doesn't allow authentication via bunghole print. It's just more convenient.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 7 hours ago

A SmartPipe^tm^ subscriber in the wild?

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What was that movie with the gentic id stuff, gattaca? Yeah, shouldn't give them too many "good" ideas....

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

You're wishing a glorious doom upon us, my friend.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ah man, I almost got excited for a second...

[–] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a dumb name. This whole Twitter -> X rebranding was stupid to begin with, why would one imitate that?

Also - Mastodon?

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Mastodon needs a complete rebranding. Name change, logo, UI, and made to be even easier for the average consumer to use, before it's even considered a competitive microblog site.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I designed MULTIVERSE's branding so it's easy to use for people who don't know what a PieFed is. I've shown this website to people who are complete normies when it comes to IT, and they understand how to use it. They don't need to know about federation or tankies or protocols, they just need to be antirealists, and they get it.

Which is to say, branding can be totally up to instance owners, it doesn't matter what the software brands itself as.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 5 hours ago

They're on sdf and they're awesome. Book good phone bad

[–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 9 hours ago

They have a cute logo and posts being called toots is the best thing ever. No idea what you'd want to change on Mastodon

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Does it? Also there is so many frontends to choose from and so many other projects. What normal people needs to realize is that they are played and the whole "But there is so much choice" argument is stupid. Imagine going to the shop where there is one type of bread called bread (super easy to use, without crust so people without teeth can chew), one type of milk (cause with bother with people having different preferences), one type of pasta etc. The more choice the better and federated networks offer exactly that. You can walk into the store and choose product you like for whatever reason. But no matter what type of bread you choose, you can still make sandwich. And this whole "W" thing is an easy money grab. Create some media attention, grab VC/European funding and create shitty clone noone will use, then say "Well looks like US corporate offerings are better afterall. Oh look democrats are back".

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

So the user is just stupid eh 😉

It's like choosing a linux distribution. When you know how the fediverse works, it's easy, but when you don't, you don't want to hear that "it's just like email!!".

It has to just work without any kind of choice what so ever, IMO, or loads of people just won't bother. Look at Signal, slick as hell, still people prefer big corp stuff...

What I'm trying to say is convenience is king.

[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 48 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Oh for the love of. Just invest in the fucking Activity Pub and similar FOSS Decentralized systems people.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 5 hours ago

They went for the protocol used by Bluesky. But apparently disabling federation.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 7 hours ago

Germany has been running official mastodon instances for politicians and government offices for years

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all for it. I think it was the initial vision for the internet and web, and we got sidetracked by growth and commercialization. I do have to wonder if such a move did happen, a sudden shift of mainstream to here (in general, the Activity Pub's various forms), could it handle it? Fast growth was a huge hit with the Reddit migration(s), and that was "just" Reddit.

[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 5 points 21 hours ago

I think what will happen is the big name corporate sites will collapse and the amount of online users will drop to just folks that have a use or passionate interest.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I was hoping they’d call it Twitter

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Imagine Elon isn’t letting that trademark expire. Only valuable thing left from that $54b.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 5 hours ago

In USA, after 3 years of no use and no intent by the owner to use you can challenge a trademark

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago

Just revoke the trademark in Europe

[–] shaun@lemmy.world 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago
[–] HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago

Left X when it was Twitter. Currently using Mastadon, Lemmy, Piefed. Will try W.
Let's support W and see how it goes.

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

America bad so switch to EU. Oh no, EU bad now, so switch to something else?

Just use something decentralized, fucking hell. Stop having such blind loyalty to countries.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should have called it XXX.