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Unfounded claims about offshore wind threatening whales have surfaced as a flashpoint in the fight over the future of renewable energy.

In recent months, conservatives including former President Donald Trump have claimed construction of offshore wind turbines is killing the giant animals.

Scientists say there is no credible evidence linking offshore wind farms to whale deaths. But that hasn’t stopped conservative groups and ad hoc “not in my back yard”-style anti-development groups from making the connection.

The Associated Press sorts fact from fiction when it comes to whales and wind power as the rare North Atlantic right whale’s migration season gets underway.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If a conservative is against it:

  • their claims are likely untrue
  • the thing they’re against will cost them money
  • the thing probably helps you or others like you
  • the thing isn’t something they’re invested in, otherwise they’d be for it
  • taken out of the context of politics, a normal, well adjusted person would probably be in favor of the thing
[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago

And they don’t actually care about the criticism they levee at it. Who honestly believes they gave a fuck about the whales?

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And how many animals have oil spills killed?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, military sonar pings.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Asteroids still #1.

Even ahead of domesticated cats.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Lol!

Fucking asteroids... Outdoing my kitty.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There are valid concerns about building these in sensitive coastal ecosystems (such as kelp forests), but this is the first time I've heard someone suggest that whales could be endangered.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

I don't really follow Donald Trump, but that doesn't surprise me.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm concerned, too, but I guess relying on fossil fuels will devastate the ecosystems even further eventually.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

There are probably plenty of areas to use that aren't as sensitive.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Sure they kill whales. All whales that jump several hundred feet up in the air right into the blades.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kill whales? What the fuck???

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can whales jump 100 feet out of the water?

Well how else would they get chopped up by a wind turbine?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since when did conservatives care about whales?

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Contrary to politicians claims

Eh? What politician would clai...

Oh, right, as you were, it's them again 😂

[–] Philo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

But it use up the wind 🤪

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (31 children)

Like Republicans are anti-whaling anyways... 🙄

The selective outrage over animal rights is such manufactured bullshit. But if I am being honest, democrats, progressives and leftists are all equally culpable in these do nothing virtue signal outrages. If you are wearing leather, eating meat and financing animal factory farming, I don't wanna hear about your crocodile tears when an imaginary whale or a fictional dog is hurt.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago

Only during whalenados

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Last night someone was telling me that the resin they use to make the blades deteriorates over time and covers the area in microplastics. Oh and each turbine needs 40 tonnes of cement which is not carbon neutral.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They main contributors for micro plastics are polyester clothing and car tires. Those people likely use both.

Sure ok. This guy drives Australian road trains. Typically 15 axles, 58 tyres.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just want to jump and say that that’s not a good argument. It’s next to impossible to get away from that kinda stuff, same as how saying that a person using an iPhone to write about capitalism being bad is just silly.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

The absolute majority of my clothes is 100% cotton. I get jackets and stuff being synthetic, but how often if at all do you even wash them unless you're going hiking a lot of whatever? And yes, it's absolutely possible to get away from a lot of this stuff. Just like it is also complete bullshit to claim that wind turbines are major contributors for microplastics. That's literally flat Earth levels of stupid.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

we gonna get you on board the fuck cars movement if microplastics are a big enough concern to not build renewable energy? Cus boy let me tell you about tire wear and microplastics.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The old “silver bullet” argument, eh? “X is not a perfect one size fits all solution with no downsides, so must be equally as bad as not doing anything”

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What?!? Astro turfed NIMBYism lied to me?

I'm shocked.

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think a great way to offset a windmill's presence in the ocean bed is to integrate it as an artificial reef. I wonder what other ways it could be a benefit.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Fund whale concussion research, CTE effects on whales, etc.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

NOW I CAN SEE THE WHALES

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