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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 67 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Also needs Babylon 5 way outside the triangle. And Lexx in a corner smoking a crack pipe.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And Lexx in a corner smoking a crack pipe.

Brilliant. And farscape?

[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 6 points 4 days ago

crack

Shrooms

Lexx is more like a bad salvia trip and being roofied.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure Lexx is crack. Maybe ecstasy or something like that. One of the uncomfortably touchy-feely party drugs where you worry that the person on it is going to start tonguing your elbow, and you really just need some personal space.

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

It’s so far up on the Good Trek scale that it has left the meme

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 58 points 4 days ago
[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I hate new Trek. A bald French captain with an English accent? A blind man flying the ship? The first officer is completely unprofessional, trying to bang every woman he sees (Even holograms! The ship has a virtual brothel, now!). It wont survive a year, I guarantee it.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 11 points 4 days ago

Ugh, and the computer keeps hitting on everybody!

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Sorry but except for LD, everything NuTrek doesn't fit at the top of that triangle for me, and belongs in either one of the bottom corner.

Or maybe I just don't like Star Trek anymore. Just like Seymour; am I wrong for not liking NuTrek? No, it's the children who are wrong!

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I watch TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT every 2 years roughly. TOS is just not for me. But nutrek is hot garbage.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty much the same. ENT was borderline with their war on terror phase, temporal war and some weird decisions, like introducing the Ferengi at that time... well, maybe I shouldn't scratch the surface too much. But some of it was good enough to make it an acceptable ensemble, at least to me. I've never been a huge fan of the movies but ended up seeing most of them.

But it started to change with the movie in 2009. I didn't like it but it's ok, it's a single movie. I thought I'd wait for the next series but they continued with this kind of movies. Then Discovery happened and I was also disappointed. I still watch reviews of the new stuff and avoid all the crap about being too woke because I know ST has always been woke, but the way the stories are now presented is not piquing my interest. I don't mind preachy Trek, I like it, but IMHO The Orville is doing much better allegories than what modern ST produces. The new stuff seems like an attempt at being action/pop and so far, none of it seems to take place in a world/universe that I would like to know more about. I keep hoping they will fix this and have something different, but aside from LD, it's always more of the same to me.

The last time a Star Trek project piqued my interest, it was Axanar, and the project got sued. Now with the new stories and bagage in the canon universe, I just feel like giving up on it. I was recently watching a new video about a character in Star Trek but it was featuring stuff from the new series, and I just stopped at that point. It feels like it's not for me anymore, and I shouldn't even bother. I'll just keep rewatching the very same list you mentioned, adding LD, and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

nutrek is just terrible under kurtzman, other than LD and prodigy.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Nah I felt the same with Discovery and SNW. They both suffer from short seasons that don't really go exploring in favor of drama. SNW just seems more like a retread of TOS with Captain Pike. Are we ever going to go further in the continuity after 90s Trek?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

std and snw suffers from kurtzmans agenda, and poor writing direction. not because its a short season. it was terrible form the get go, snw is somewhat better but the actors are so wooden in thier acting.

i forgot the nutrek has no exploration at all, its just a convoluted Enemy that turns out to be a dud. remember the "burn" its an overgrown manchild that screams and destroys ships in the future. a whole season build up only to drop it the next season.

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

While I want to say that the combined effort of JJ Abrams and DIS have thoroughly trampled that possibility. PIC

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Huh. I'll have to give Lower Decks a chance; it's the only one with the name Kurtzman attached that I haven't yet watched and been disappointed by.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 30 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Lower Decks is top tier Star Trek.

The more widespread your Star Trek knowledge, the more you'll enjoy it.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

It's Star Trek written by true Star Trek nerds.

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[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thoroughly enjoyed Lower Decks, just because it's a comedy doesn't mean it isn't serious sci fi with real stakes like any other trek show. It highlights how absurd the writing of trek throughout can be and still rolls with it, still treating that absurdity with the same seriousness as everything else crazy in the universe.

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[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Nah, it's not you. Trek has changed for the worse. Sure, it's pretty and shot well, and the actors are trying. Though the writing is modern action drama for the most part. It's not written to be timeless. It's not written to be intelligent first. It's written to be "entertaining" first.

Everyone says later seasons of Picard are good, but... I just cannot. I cannot accept the universe they built. 1.5 entire seasons of shit drag it down for me. I'd take another SNW singing episode over Picard.

Academy is still continuing in the entertainment first route, but it at least seems like they're attempting to inject a little intelligence into it. Still a bit dubious on saying it's "good" trek, but at least it's not corrupt trash. Or maybe the rest of the junk has just eaten away at my sensibilities.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

Picard was pretty bad from start to finish, they dropped the borg alliance the moment season 2 ended. and it was obvious baity to include the "enterprise" crew in the last few episodes.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

bad trek should have all of nutrek on it, good trek is the old trek. LD and prodigy fits in between old and bad trek. orville is "trek-like" kurtzmans trek and jj abram isnt really trek, is just "fan service without the " spirit of old trek and trying to target new audience, that are lowest common denominators. (all flash and no substance).

orville is more TREK-like than kurtzman's nutrek.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Orville sits with galaxy quest. End of.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Galaxy Quest could be a great TV series. At least it deserves a sequel.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You can't have a sequel to Galaxy Quest without Alan Rickman, may he rest in peace. He cannot be replaced.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There was a Holiday Special?!

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Obvious ragebait is obvious.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a Star TREK Holiday Special?

Is it worse than the Star WARS Holiday Special?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

this abomination was ahead of its time.

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cocaine was most definitely used in the making of this treasure.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Carrie Fisher said she had no memory of making that due to being high off her ass.

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