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I've always considered myself a film buff but even i'm struggling to sit through most of the tripe that's coming out of hollywood these days. Arts films have always been a challenge but rewarding once their completed.
i mean some of the movies film professors pick, i had trouble sitting through, uh, 20-30 years ago (that is not an estimate i was one of those students) so is this on the professors? what are the films?
thumbnail of The Brutalist (4 hrs long) okay perhaps not the best example
Oppenheimer was rough. The whole fuckin thing about whether he was a commie or not, or just how commie he was, is it commie to not want to drop the bomb, etc. Myopic, tedious. You could cut an hour out and it would be the same movie. They didn’t even get into the “Demon Core”.
I'm surprised that's what your experience of it was. To me it was about his hopeless (arguably naive) struggle to do what he thought was right and true in a time where both truth and morality were mostly becoming weaponized in service of alignments of power. He thought he could thread the needle only to time and time again have simply been used by others to further their own agendas, leaving hurt bystanders in his wake.
I somewhat agree that an hour could be cut out, though I don't exactly know which parts.
Admittedly that is a more accurate synopsis. It was very informative in terms of how/why those events took place, how the politics of the era were conducted, the connections to our current era, a lot of things that don’t often get discussed. It is probably a very “important” movie, unfortunately it’s not a very entertaining one. Compare it to “Cheney”, for example, which was moderately informative, but highly entertaining.
Love that people complain about the length of movies while simultaneously happily siting through eight, hour+ long episodes of Stranger Things over two evenings.
Especially when many hours could have easily been left on the cutting room floor of most streaming shows, but they need to streeetch the runtime so that the writers can meet their contractual, or whatever other internal requirements.
My favorite is when they they say something like "it starts getting good in season 3". Like I'm going to watch tens of hours of a show that kind of sucks just to see if it actually starts getting good or not?
Of course, the reality is that they aren't really watching the show like I would - as in, they aren't sitting down and giving it their undivided attention. The show is on, but they're also on their phones the entire time, or it's on in the background and they are doing something else, or whatever. Probably one of the reasons why the show feels like it's full of filler - they need to make sure that someone that's only sort of paying attention can still follow what's going on.
or they just have more patient and different standards than you do.
tons of shows are bad or awkward in their first season, and then go on to become blockbusters later on as the creative team finds its stride. that's just part of the process. Very few shows are banger from start to finish because of all the complexity involve in creating a show over multiple years.
Personally I really enjoy watching how a show changes over time as team members, cast members, etc come and go. Part of my enjoyment of a show is the process of the show changing, for better or worse. And it's interesting to compare seasons and episodes against each other as they vary in quality.
Love that people complain about the length of movies while simultaneously happily siting through eight, hour+ long episodes of Stranger Things over two evenings.
Because a movie is a constant continuation, where as each episode has a hard end and you can stop and decide if you want to continue or stop.
are the movies shit? do you take into account that every movie stands on the shoulder of all the films before it and so rehashes the same shit usually the same way? can you appreciate that the good filmmakers raise the bar on what is acceptable and that a lot of the slop coming out can't pass it?
I've given up on giving a chance to substandard crap. oh it picks up in the 2nd halp or third season or whatever - get fucked. how can pluribus grab me in the first five minutes? how can hell or high water do the same?
I believe its not so much about the quality of the movie. Shitty stuff often manages to catch our attentions. The kind of media we consume shapes the hooks that get our attention. If my habits are different from yours, what hooks my attention might not hook yours, and vice versa.
nah, clearly it's that anyone who doesn't like what I like is stupid and anything i don't like is wrong and bad.
and anyone who says otherwise is dumb and wrong, because my ego is incredibly fragile and can't process that other people have different opinions than me, and some of those people have superior and far more informed opinions than my own...
god forbid I admit I have preferences and limits to my understanding! i might be forced to acknowledge that other people have different preferences and limits and they are just as legitimate as my own!
There’s a difference between a movie you want to go see in a theater and the film assigned as classwork by a professor.
Same as if you were told you had to read a book by an author you don’t care for in a writing style that doesn’t click with you snd maybe even from a different time with framing that doesn’t exist today.
It’s work.
Maybe desire to play with a phone and use social media might be an issue, but at least some of these same kids that have a hard time sitting through a film would have doodled, started falling asleep or just daydreamed instead.