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Locking this thread. Too much pointless fighting happening and reports going out.

I just want to add to the discussion that I think it's perfectly healthy if two instances don't like each other and/or have different outlooks - it's the beauty of the fediverse and having decentralisation that they don't have to agree on everything.

Visit ML before any major Western election and browse by Local (its default) and you will easily see: ML calls for the literal and actual fall of all Western civilization including the deaths of most to nearly all peoples therein.

Whereas LW does not want that, go figure. 🤷‍♀️

Something something bOtH sIdEs SaMe.

The stereotype is that Lemmy.ml wants to play with Stalin's balls. Lemmy.world wants to play with, I don't know, Obama's balls? With Bernie, Bill Clinton, and Reagan watching from the corner?

Something like that, anyway.

ML is run by people who are not only communist, but also communists can do no wrong, capitalists can do no right. Just being communist most of us could live with, but the second is a problem. When someone cannot agree things like genocides that various communist governments are a bad it is really hard to have productive conversations.

Long-standing political differences and an extremely censorious moderation philosophy on Lemmy.ml means there is always tension. I'm not aware of any specific thing that has happened recently though.

Liberals and communists hate each other, that's pretty much it

ML is run by heavily-indoctrinated communists. They're the type that straight up worship communist leaders.

lemmy.world is kind of run by pussies. They blocked the piracy sublemmy for no real reason other than that.

It doesn't surprise me they are butting heads. Hopefully the instances that allow interaction with both instances triumph over those that try to restrict access.

I block ml users on sight so I didn’t even notice

I signed up for the developer's instance because fuck reddit, and I do dev work.

Server choice had nothing to do with any political shit. I barely knew what federation was at the time. Lemmy immediately proved there are as many bandwagoning idiots as reddit here.

I have nothing to say about world though, I don't use the platform that much.

Obviously this is my opinion based off observations I've made, and not every user or sub in each instance falls under this generalization.

Both instances have a lot of users, and they have ideological differences, so they inevitably butt heads. Depending on who you ask, ML mainly has socialists, communists, or tankies. World seems to be more centrist leaning to the left, but it seems to be accepting of a more varied range of political opinions. Considering a lot of Lemmy users came from Reddit, I think a comparison can be drawn. My opinion is that World users have an ideology similar to most of Reddit and seem more likely to have left Reddit because they took issue with specific Reddit admin policies. On the other hand, ML users would have had an ideology that was more fringe for Reddit, and while they may have had issues with Reddit admins as well, they seem more likely to have left Reddit because their views were not well accepted among Reddit's general population.

.world is full of apologists and denialists for western imperialism

.ml is full of tankies who think that ALL Americans are fascists (even those of us currently being terrorized by fascists).

FSM help you if you ever try to inject sanity into one of their "debates"

My only issue with .ml that it’s pretty much lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net in disguise. They are simply not being honest about who the instance is for.

Don’t misunderstand. I don’t have anything against any of them, but they should really just be honest who lemmy.ml is for. Just like lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net is.

Lemmygrad.ml first rule is: No capitalist apologia / anti-communism.

This is pretty much a hidden rule on Lemmy.ml.

I remember a long time ago when Nutomic was hosting peertube.social. There, the rules was very honest and you knew what you signed up for in the instance. So why not just do that now as well?

Hint: look at Dessalines modlog

I like both instances.