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A large cargo ship with a fire in its hold is being kept 2 miles (3.22 kilometers) offshore of an Alaska port as a precaution while efforts are undertaken to extinguish the flames, the U.S. Coast Guard said Saturday.

There were no injuries to the 19 crew members aboard the Genius Star XI, which was carrying a load of lithium-ion batteries across the Pacific Ocean, from Vietnam to San Diego, the guard’s Alaska district said in a release.

The fire started on Christmas Day in cargo hold No. 1, a spokesperson for ship owner Wisdom Marine Group said in a statement. The crew released carbon dioxide into the hold and sealed it over concerns of an explosion.

Ship’s personnel alerted the Coast Guard early Thursday morning about the fire. The Coast Guard said it diverted the 410-foot (125-meter) cargo ship to Dutch Harbor, one of the nation’s busiest fishing ports located in Unalaska, an Aleutian Islands community about 800 miles (1,287 kilometers) southwest of Anchorage.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 89 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I ordered 23 tons of burning batteries on Amazon, but it's running late. I wonder if this is related.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

I had 40 tons show up last night and only ordered 17, I think I got yours.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Burning batteries and the right?

You must pee the bed at night.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Your comment gave me quite the fright.

But, your rhyming game is outta sight!

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 63 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"It's been towed beyond the environment."

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Id like to see the physics on this.

[–] theluckyone@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No, it’s beyond the environment, it’s not in an environment. It has been towed beyond the environment.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Does it require rigerous maritime standards, like at least 1 crew?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Can i put a container of my stuff there?

Im tired of paying Public Storage's ratchet game.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Does it require rigerous maritime standards, like at least 1 crew?

[–] theluckyone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

No paper, no string, no sellotape.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago

We turn off physics outside the environment to save clock cycles

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An expert hired by the Taipei, Taiwan-based Wisdom Marine Group “is working diligently to create contingency plans, arrange for a firefighting team, and ensure the necessary equipment is in place,’ the group said in a statement.

Yeah right. They're frantically trying to figure out how to dump the container overboard and whether the penalties would cost less than losing the boats cargo.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Dumping it in water will not stop it from burning, and will probably make things a lot worse for the crew.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If they could dump it overboard they absolutely would not care whether it continues to burn.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think you mistake how much people like a steady paycheck and want to do their jobs how they're supposed to be done.

I mean sure, if tossing it into the ocean as a last resort is in the SOP and we had MSDS saying go ahead as long as you can get three miles away...

I think you mistake how companies work.

When there's many millions of dollars on the line and you're an easily replaceable deck hand the SOP is to do whatever the fuck the special consultant tells you to do.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If the container would melt and need dumping, then it would likely melt throught the ship hull as well if not jettisoned.

And then every other polutant on board is in play as well as the lithium fire.

So dumping the container is probably the least damage scenario of the things are out of control scenarios.

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I believe that lithium ion and lithium iron phosphate fires are generally put out by lowering the temperature of the reaction to the point that it can't self sustain. Dumping it overboard in a vast supply of frigid water actually would put it out, provided it sinks.

It's also a really really bad idea environmentally.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, someone already commented that they've towed it outside of the environment.

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I applaud them for doing that before the front fell off this time. Hope they don't encounter any waves out there.

[–] theluckyone@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Oh, yeah. At sea? Chance in a million!

[–] Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

According to the article it is near a major fishing area (Dutch Harbor), so dumping those batteries will do extra damage.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

But on the positive side, the electric eel population will get a much needed boost

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The crew released carbon dioxide into the hold

Apparently some larger airliners have a similar mechanism for the cargo hold of the aircraft. The system is sometimes referred to as "the puppy snuffer" :(

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

If an onboard fire occurs, those dogs are dead anyway. Might as well try to halt the fire before it melts the airframe.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The "puppy snuffer" is the cargo heat outflow valve. Cargo isn't heated unless needed, for example where the manifest says there's animals there. It has nothing to do with fire suppression systems.

But no one should be flying with their pets anyways. Get a sitter, or if you're moving forever, drive there. Even if moving across the ocean, I'd rather spend over a week on a boat (or even give my dog up to someone else) than subject him all alone to the stress of an airplane's cargo hold.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Meh, they knock them out. I've done a 14 hour sold out commercial flight whacked out on Atavan and don't even remember the stopovers.

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Eh? My wife flew from the PNW to France with our cat when we moved. She gave her half a dose of the veterinarian prescribed knockout juice and she was completely fine. Of course, she wasn't in the hold, but still.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I forget the details, but there was some alarming numbers about pet deaths specifically in the cargo hold. We opted to drive the kitty, with some meds bc he doesn’t really like being in the car.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If your pet is small enough it can fly in the cabin, as long as it's in a soft crate.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I'm not going to upvote this, because I can't bring myself to, but thank you for telling me.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

This is not the future that EPCOT promised me.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who tf decided to ship burning batteries lmao

[–] WeirdAlex03@lemmy.zip 30 points 8 months ago

They were being sent to Springfield to upgrade and modernize the Tire Fire

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry it was a fire sale, I couldn't resist.

I will admit I misunderstood what they meant with the "fire" part of the sale.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yo our shits on fire.

lol stay out there bro.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Better that than this.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this the shipment for the new Samsung Note?

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Samsung Galaxy Smote

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Coast Guard said it diverted the 410-foot (125-meter) cargo ship to Dutch Harbor, one of the nation’s busiest fishing ports

Were there no other options?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was burning, past tense, and besides, those batteries don't detonate. I'm pleasantly surprised they have a CO2 mitigation system and ability to seal the cargo hold. Had no idea that was a thing!

Get it into port where you got the resources to have a look, get the crew offboard, experts onboard. Sounds like a sane plan to me.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Is the fire out?

It does not appear so by reading the article.

First paragraph:

A large cargo ship with a fire in its hold is being kept 2 miles (3.22 kilometers) offshore of an Alaska port as a precaution while efforts are undertaken to extinguish the flames, the U.S. Coast Guard said Saturday.

Timeline - Fire started Monday. CO2 released then? Ship told Coast Guard on Thursday, divert order given then? Ship still burning offshore on Saturday.

Lithium car batteries supply their own oxygen so a simple gas smothering might not work.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Don't like lithium fish sticks?

(I probably wouldn't either)

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Really seems like something they should have had plans for before insurance would let them ship the batteries.