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[–] kat@lemmy.blehiscool.com 3 points 3 days ago

Something I’ve been thinking about: independent security projects often face pressure once corporate partnerships or funding enter the picture.

Does GrapheneOS have any structural safeguards to ensure development priorities remain community-driven if hardware vendors become more involved?

I’m not assuming there’s a problem — just interested in how projects like this avoid the “venture capital influence” problem that has affected other open source initiatives.

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We're in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going "Is there literally nothing else we can use???" Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

[–] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?

[–] seedd@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.

[–] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Better than American owned and operated.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto... Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

why in the thumbnail is it neither org's logos?

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Since when is Graphene's logo a football and Motorola's the Super Mario M?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 points 6 days ago

It's AI slop.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That's my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

they still do have jacks in some of their low and mid devices

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago

Haven't had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn't subject to the whims of Google.

[–] JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it's just that we're not the beneficiaries.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can't they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I've seen lately, including Motorola's, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don't give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.

Presumably they could start shipping graphene stock

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.

I used Motorola's products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don't where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.

Now I got a Samsung and it's one of my worst experiences ever using their "One UI" and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.

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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

I really hope motorolla just does a regular unaltered Graphene OS and not some skinned version of it

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

According to the article, it was a little obvious that it'd be Motorola. To me it's unexpected as I wasn't following this all that closely. In any case, I'm personally pleased with the OEM choice. I'll need to do some research on Motorola's smartphones to prepare for the one/s that support Graphene.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

They are basically stock android with minimal bloatware for a decent price. I've been using them for years. There's the whole Lenovo scandal but its hard to find any decent phone I want nowadays so concessions need to be made somewhere

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[–] MIXEDUNIVERS@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i would liked xiomi more but more Hardware is better than only google

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[–] schema@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I remember having a motorola razr when i was younger. Loved the design

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[–] blazingamr@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

This isn't that Motorola. This is the Chinese zombie brand Motorola.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Tbh, not a huge fan of the pick. I had various Motorola Droid phones for years before switching to Samsung. All of the Droids were horribly underpowered after 2 years and the batteries only had 1/2 of their original capacity by that point. Then I got a Samsung S10e and it lasted 5+ years.

I seriously hope Motorola has gotten rid of their planned obsolescence policy in the past few years. It's nice that there's going to be a second vendor option for GrapheneOS soon, but I wish it was a better vendor

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what would you consider a better vendor? samsung, xiaomi, oneplus? those all have been plenting more and more malware into their phones from the factory, sometimes making it seem like a feature, and recently they started to bar owners from replacing the OS on it by taking away the option to unlock the bootloader

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Motorola flagship phones are decent. I've been running a razr (the flip alternative) and its been solid. They're not groundbreaking but they are a good bang for your money

Their low budget ones aren't that good because they cost like 200 usd and run on bare minimums

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

I would like it even more to see that working on a Xiaomi or Samsung

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