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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 37 points 2 hours ago

Oh my God, I fucking love this. I mean, I absolutely hate that this is the optimal way to pack 17 squares into a larger square such that the size of the larger square is minimised. However, I love that someone went to the effort of making a waffle iron plate for this. High effort shitposts like this give me life

[–] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Isn’t there a difference between “the most squares fit into a square” and “a collection of squares optimized for maximum small-square area inside of a larger square”? If there’s a difference in solutions, what would the solution for the latter actually be?

Mathematicians halp plz

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm sure a big square inside the main square would have a higher surface area than this. Calculations over the top of my head tell me this, but then again, I didn't publish an article on the subject.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 hour ago

I am sad because these squares look very out of place, unlike hexagons which are beautiful and perfect and never cause problems whatsoever, ever ever!

[–] waldfee@feddit.org 15 points 3 hours ago
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 131 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] blx@piefed.zip 28 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago) (1 children)

I wonder how many people would have understood both references just a few years ago. Yet today, not only someone made a meme out of this, but it also gets a good deal of upvotes. That's the internet culture I love!

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

What's the other reference, for someone not much into Resident Evil?

[–] blx@piefed.zip 1 points 6 minutes ago

Oh just that square packing thing from the post. There have been many posts/jokes about it being a mathematically optimal solution that feels irritatingly wrong.

I find the whole thing funny because it's a very niche scientific concept that somehow made it to popular culture to the same level as a zombie game.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

The Resident Evil games (at least the few I've watched/played) have an inventory management system where each item takes up a certain amount of space, and you have to organize it efficiently in order to maximize how much stuff you can carry.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Oh, is that all there is to it?
I thought it might also have something to do with the personality of the character on the right, or that you get a smaller inventory box when playing as that character.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 25 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Im a dipper. You put the syrup where you want it yourself. Do not rely on some fancy designed skillet to feed you the way you deserve.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The big perk of waffles is the surface area results in a lot of crispy with some fluffy. The fact that it holds syrup is just a perk

[–] Pika@rekabu.ru 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

More square holes = more surface = more syrup in the dip!

not that different now, are we

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

More holes = less area of waffle to dip! Less waffle = less dip overall.
Or, another way of looking at it:
Fewer holes = more waffle = more area = more dip overall.

Come on, it's not rocket seance!!!

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

More holes = less area of waffle to dip!

You lost me at the first part.
Are we talking about the same kind of hole and same kind of area?

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You're right, this is rocket séance!:

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Pffffffft. You can tell from the tone of my comment that I obviously meant the old saying of "it's not rocket silence."

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

"it's not rocket appliances, Ricky, move on, it's water under the fridge."

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Soudns like you're about to blow up

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Thanks, I hate it!

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 216 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (25 children)

For the uninitiated: this is the current most-efficient method found of packing 17 unit squares inside another square. You may not like it, but this is what peak efficiency looks like.

(Of course, 16 squares has a packing coefficient of 4, compared to this arrangement's 4.675, so this is just what peak efficiency looks like for 17 squares)

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't this only true if the outer square's size is not an integer multiple of the inner square's size? Meaning, if you have to do this to your waffle iron, you simply chose the dimensions poorly.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago

The optimisation objective is to fit n smaller squares (in this case, n=17) into the larger square, whilst minimising the size of the outer square. So that means that in this problem, the dimensions of the outer square isn't a thing that we're choosing the dimensions of, but rather discovering its dimensions (given the objective of "minimise the dimensions of the outer square whilst fitting 17 smaller squares inside it)

[–] deus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Or maybe you just want waffles with 17 squares in them.

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

Took me a while lol

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The solution is to take a bite of waffle and then take a drink of syrup like it's a chaser

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 6 hours ago

and this is why I can no longer go to cocktail bars

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