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A lot of companies could do stuff. We know it'd all go to AI slop anyway, so whatever.
They should try entering the desktop GPU market.
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Do I want another option in the desktop CPU space? YES
Do I want that option to be Nvidia? NOPE
I'm looking forward to the MilkV chipsets that are RISC V architecture. They have like a microATX board that just takes regular computer components and has functioning graphics drivers for AMD. Nothing is optimized for it but its a 64 core CPU if I recall correctly, and its ridiculously low wattage for what it does.
Ditto. RISCV will catch up, eventually, and it'll be a Chinese company which does it. Most of þe RISCV solutions are Chinese silicon.
Yeah, but, it's Nvidia, the same company who's a key figure on the AI-Govt circlejerk.
The absolute best thing we can do is boycott them AND OpenAI, because neither company gives a F about the People.
While Huang and Nvidia continue their current trajectory, I'll never buy another Nvidia product.
Yeah, seriously. Nvidia is too busy fucking over the consumer PC market to be interested to produce a CPU that'd sell in that same market. My bet is that any CPU they release would be targeted at cloud/AI as well.
If it ever becomes the standard desktop processor, they'll pull the rug like they have with graphics processors and push everything to AI datacenters.
Hard pass
well they start making decent drivers for linux or will they suck ass like they do now
I'm not buying this news, and if I'm wrong I'm not buying the product. Fuck Nvidia
Can't wait to install a 5GB driver bundle for my CPU that leaves shit all over the place. No thanks.
Yeah I think I'd rather stick a CPU up my ass then use a Nvidia CPU an any computer I own.
I will not buy another nvidia retail product again. Could make an exception for a second hand shield from an earlier generation, but nvidia is dead to me. AMD is my new best friend.
AMD is still trying to get in on the AI cash pile. The only thing they have going for them is pretty solid Linux support. I still pick them over nvidia and intel, they just aren’t much better than the others when it comes to “consumer first” ideologies
so... they have spare production capacity then?
Are they hedging against AI collapsing? Not sure I see the motivation.
I think that's 100% what this is, and it's a very smart play if that's the case. Intel are reeling from some significant setbacks, while Nvidia is swimming in cash. There's never been a better time for them to make a play for the desktop CPU space.
And they've got absolutely no illusions about what's happening with AI. They're the ones who are literally paying AI companies to buy their chips. They know the space is collapsing. But as the guys selling the picks and shovels, they can ride out that collapse if they're smart.
End of the day, if what we get out of this is a new, serious competitor in the CPU space, that'll at least be some kind of win. With Nvidia's money and expertise they could really force Intel to get their shit together. AMD chasing their heels is the only that's ever kept them from completely going to shit, but more competition is even better. With all three major companies playing in both the CPU and GPU spaces, that could be really good for consumers.
Both that and vertical integration. They can capture even more of the market by creating all in one Nvidia-only machines that you have to buy the whole rig to use their accelerators
Nvidia wants to be the equal to Intel and AMD. They want to be the 3rd major hardware house.
In ~2009, Intel didn’t renew a contract which allowed Nvidia to produce chipsets for Intel processors, and since then Nvidia has wanted a CPU of their own to keep from getting locked out again.
Nvidia tried to buy Arm when SoftBank was trying to sell, but that got scuttled. They had Tegra in the past which was a phone processor and successful in the Nintendo Switch. They can’t buy Intel because of poison pills in the x86 licensing between AMD and Intel which would kick in.
Yeah, that was my question. Why the hell would they develop new silicon when 99% of their fab space is dedicated to feeding the AI bubble?
They're doubling down. It's a special CPU for more AI slop.
Good, I won't be buying them either.
I don’t think I’ll ever purchase anything made by NVIDIA
I mean if it's 2nd hand.. and the free (libre) drivers are good.. and AMD hasn't gone full Intel.. maybe??
clock speed of 4GHz, which is far below AMD and Intel's 5GHz.
phrasing is odd. 25% lower clock speed isnt “far below”
but also fuck nvidia
I don't think it should even be comparable between totally different architectures.
Yeah, we've been through this exact same game with multiple iterations of Intel and AMD chips. When AMD first started doing consumer CPUs they badged them according to their equivalent Intel clock speed because one to one comparisons were misleading.
What's the L1 and L2 cache? What are the bus speeds? How many cores and how are they architectured? Multi-threading? How many steps is the instruction cycle? There are so many factors beyond just clock speed that play into real world performance.
I can't believe people still look at Hz and think it's a sole metric that can be used for performance.
Do you think they look at the 2005 Pentium 4's 3.8GHz and assume it's only slightly worse than what Nvidia will put on the market?
25% lower clock speed isnt “far below”
AHEM! AKTCHEWALEE..... it's 20% which is even less qualified to be "far below" the other two.
You willing to take a 25% pay cut? Yeah that’s hella far. Especially when you’re up in the GHz range.
Does it work without ram?
Edit- removed "and"
Don't worry. It will only be used for ai data centers.
Let me guess, it won't work with Linux once so ever without a propetairy nvidia kernel
This is more about the Arm X925 core than about Nvidia. The X925 is a new superscalar ARM core that's the first one competitive with current x64 at single threaded compute.
I am literally just waiting for China to catch up and knock over all 3 of these TSMC suckers.
I don't care if they throw a 2000% tarrif on it, I will figure out a way to bypass it so I can enjoy pre inflation PC prices again when high end GPUs were going for $300, SSDs became so cheap that the HDD market actually started falling behind, and you could chuck RAM sticks around like spare change.
It would be nice to see hardware smugglers.
If the tariffs last, emergence of some smugglers is unavoidable.
Add to that that they would be tracked by Kash Patel's ruined FBI, and the risk assessment is even more in favor of smuggling.
Big lol. I'll believe it when I see benchmarks.
I mean, of course they could.
But where's the money in that?
Fuck that company
Maybe they should start making RAM /s
The tegra boards are good on Linux. They need to get this out so software developers can work out the software kinks and hardware integrators make some good designs. I want a whole lot more Steam Machine sized devices to choose from
