Meanwhile, Babylon 5
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The best Star Trek series was Babylon 5, just like how the best Star Trek movie was Galaxy Quest.
I thought the best Star Trek series is The Orvil?
The best modern one, yes.
I couldn’t get into The Orville. Seemed rather presumptuous that you can apply human morals to aliens.
You mean like in Star Trek?
Then I suggest something like Farscape.
I feel like Star Trek did it better? They didn’t say Vulcan’s shouldn’t have Pon Farr, they worked together to solve the situation.
So, I just started Babylon 5 and find it to be quite shit actually. Does it get better? It's really just bad acting and not really engaging. I'm 4 episodes in.
If I was recommending somebody how to watch B5 for the first time, I'd probably just say to skip the first season (as well as the pilot). In my opinion, Commander Sinclair is the weakest link in the acting, and he leaves after the first season. His replacement is a very good actor, in my opinion.
Also, as far as acting goes, Ambassadors Mollari and G'Kar get more screen time as the series progresses, and I think they're both great actors.
The first season does have a lot of background that sets up later seasons, and I've grown to like it, but I've seen the entire series probably over 10 times now, and for the first 3-4 times, I disliked the first season.
Nice, i was hoping to hear something like this! I'll just stick to it. At the moment I'm enjoying a 2nd run of The Expanse, so I'll likely pick up Babylon 5 after that.
Sinclair is a good actor. He was just on the mental decline during filming.
The first season had the TV execs meddling to make it be like ST:TNG because they wanted to mimic the popular thing at the time.
The writer got his way starting in season 2 and got to tell his story without the meddling.
Yes it gets better is what I’m saying. 🙂
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OP forgot an older one:
My champion:
Firefly?? Farscape?
Meanwhile, in the cool sector of the universe: 
You'd have to be a real smeg head to do that.
I mean, as long they clean it in between uses
The collective fandom of Star Fox looks at one another awkwardly.
We don't talk about the furries.
Not because we don't like them, but because that shit's complicated
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What about Lexx?
Mmh, kinky!
Battlestar won't stand for this indignation!
There are only two genders! Sci-fi and fantasy! And I lay with both!
but where does that leave dune
In the sand, most likely.
Where it's always been, sitting on the Foundation trilogy's shoulders, while in turn supporting the rest of the whole genre on its own shoulders.
Or Battlestar Galactica
I'm so fluid right now.
I'm pretty sure Stargate is a slur when used this way.
The split is hard sci-fi / sci-fi fantasy.
I have always seen the soft/hard sci-fi as a sliding scale. I imagine it is like the mohs scale for minerals with diamonds as a 10.
Stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey is a solid 10 until after HAL is shutdown and even with the bizarre ending it is fully in the "sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic" and still something like 8.5-9
Star Trek is pretty good about being internally consistent and having day to day stuff be pretty grounded but there is so much purely nonsense trecknobable that I only consider it a 6 out of 10.
Very different story and world but I would rate Stargate about the same. Maybe actually a bit higher. Mostly because it is a newer series that was better able to track its own weird stuff it had claimed and keep it consistent.
Star Wars something like 4.5. still gets ok because of mostly internal consistency but definitely leans strongly the fantasy elements that are mixed in.
if i pick starcraft, does that make me non-trinary?
"What's in your pants?"
"5x5, in the pipe."
Is it too much to want them all?
As much as I like ragging on some Star Trek series, at least they're not Stargate series.
Stargate had this thing where they pretended to be extremely serious but in reality they were about as serious as their spiritual predecessors Sliders and Quantum Leap.
I guess you haven't watched SG then. They are just at the right level of taking themselves seriously and taking the piss.
Some episodes are very serious, others are pure silliness.
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Does this mean I'm non-trinary?
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