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The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an "unhinged" all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.

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[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 215 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is the way he’s always been and it’s only getting worse.

Employees have always had to manage him not the other way around; a perpetual petulant toddler banging his hands on the table; ruining everything he touches with his Reverse-Midas-Touch so they keep him at bay.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 99 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This is increasingly the characterization of so many rich and powerful people.

Soooo weird…

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have money, then in the business world you have intrinsic value.

When you have enough, you reach the tipping point where it doesn't just need to be the only thing you provide, but it outweighs others ways you hurt the business.

The less your ideas are useful and the more money you hoard, the faster it changes.

It can go quickly downhill when the CEOs wealth is tied to stock price.

And ends disastrously when they go somewhere that workers aren't used to them. Because the CEO was never told they used to be babysat just for their money, they legit believe they're a genius

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[–] Blackout@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

You have to think who gets that wealthy and is like "Let's go to work!" You have to be psychotic to have more wealth than you can ever spend and not go fuck off somewhere and enjoy it. I would never go back to a job even if I was running the place, I'd just do whatever I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We call it the Mierdas Touch.

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Phony Stark and his Mierdas Touch. nice

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[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 131 points 10 months ago (4 children)

At SpaceX, where illicit drug use could jeopardize the billions of dollars of government contracts enjoyed by the defense contractor due to federal regulations, The Journal's reports of Musk's drug use put at risk nearly $1 trillion in assets held by investors, about 13,000 jobs, and the future of the US space program.

And I thought Twitter was going to be his biggest fuck up.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And of course, businessinsider doesn't blame the rich guy... they blame the 'snitch'

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[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago (4 children)

We can excuse the racism, the transphobia, and the antisemitism, but we draw the line at drugs!

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 27 points 10 months ago

That can lose them their security clearance and government contracts, so kind of a big deal.

The racism and transphobia and everything else can be ignored because it doesn't affect their bottom line in the society we live in.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't you see? All of those other things were BECAUSE of the drugs! It's exactly like what happened to Roseanne and her Ambiens!

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 107 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

with one executive describing the event to the outlet as "nonsensical," "unhinged" and "cringeworthy."

This is different from normal?

Also:

SpaceX also began cracking down on illegal substances at the company by bringing in drug-sniffing dogs, sources told The Journal.

How much do you want to bet those dogs are never allowed up in the executive suites?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What kind of company has such a bad drug problem that they need to bring in dogs to find it? Absolutely ridiculous.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd probably be shooting up junk too if my boss was Elon Musk.

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In normal corporate environments I’ve seen people abuse everything from codeine headache tablets to crystal meth.

Not defending Edolf Twitler, I’m just saying it’s not unusual for these environments to be so toxic that people look for ways to manage.

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[–] Hereforpron2@lemmynsfw.com 103 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Guys let's not make taking drugs look even worse by association it with that guy

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago (7 children)

... Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, ...

Explains....soooo much. Still an asshole, though.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea... You kinda' have to be a real piece of shit to be on that many drugs and still be an asshole. Good ol' musky.

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It’s news sure but is anyone thinking it’s groundbreaking news that Elon musk might be on drugs most of the time?

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (12 children)

The guy was a decent salesman, heavilly empowered by daddy's money and connections, who had a bit of luck, even though he only had one kind of salesmanship technique - the Techbro Brew: heavy on selling "high-tech" and "innovation" as inherently good and always trumphing other considerations - and kept walking the grey legal area between lies, exageration and Fraud.

However he seems to have started believing his own schtick that he's a special golden boy whose farts smell of roses, and here we are now.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Know this: having that amount of money is deeply not normal. None of us could do it. We'd save people. We'd build things that helped instead of giant toys. Billionaires are a type of sociopathy. And this guy's got it bad.

100% tax after 999 million. Full stop.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will admit, him being on drugs did not occur to me as a possible explanation for his 'taking tesla private' tweet that torpeedoed his networth, but having been confronted by it now I am having a hard time not believing it.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, according to people familiar with the matter, is at the center of an extensive new report from The Journal that details how executives at several of the billionaire's companies have struggled to manage his substance use and erratic behavior.

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[–] sirdorius@programming.dev 52 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Has there ever been an all-hands meeting where the CEO was not cringeworthy?

I just assume it's the minimum amount of yearly cringe you have to endure to stay employed.

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[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And? Its only a crime when regular people do it, for rich people its just 'eccentric'

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Until it starts hurting the other rich people- the investors. Eventually, Musk's erratic behavior will have to be dealt with. He will never be anything but a multibillionaire, but he may not be CEO of his companies much longer at this rate.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't he been relatively open about his habitual micro and macro dosing of ketamine?

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's a world of difference between a micro and a macro dose. You don't want to be anywhere near work with the latter.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The difference being, with one you get a light, pleasant, happy, drunk adjacent feeling. With the other, you're sitting on the ground staring into the infinite void of nothingness, head lolled to one side, while your friends dab the back of your neck with a cool towel, hoping you don't puke and asphyxiate on it.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I'd argue that once you are feeling effects of the drug, you are no longer micro dosing.

Micro dosing started out as a way to describe the maximum amount of substance you could take without feeling primary effects.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imagine the power trip that comes from being Elon Musk's Dealer.

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (5 children)

His dealer likely doesn’t even know it’s going to Musk.

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[–] Barack_Embalmer@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I heard some of the really wealthy Silicon Valley types kit out their own private laboratory and hire chemists.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Companies perform drug checks for a reason. People who lead large organizations while regularly getting off on drugs are usually the biggest psychopaths around.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 60 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The higher up you go, the less likely it is that you'd be tested for drugs. We could empty board rooms if we insisted on drug testing at that level.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And that reason is to keep insurance premiums down.

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These are the same people that let him fire a car into orbit around Mars with an "empty" space suit in the driver's seat.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

What would be scarier is if he wasn't on drugs. Being on drugs means that there is a "normal state" for him to return to.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Given that SpaceX is a private company, where Musk owns the vast majority of voting rights, I'm not sure what can be done here. The same goes for Twitter, and I doubt Musk is stupid enough to have bylaws in a company he bought 12 months ago that would oust him for drug abuse (although I would fucking love it!)

Tesla, though, is only 21% owned by Musk (assuming Wikipedia is up to date). While it's tight, I imagine the board could request he take a drug test, and if he refuses/fails, call a vote to remove him. Given that Tesla execs have been worried about his unhinged behaviour for years, it could be the blessing they've been hoping for.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess that Marijuana that he awkwardly smoked to be "cool" was a gateway drug to much worse.

[–] TTimo@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

What a sad downspiral for the guy. There's no way this ends well and we're all forced to attend the party.

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