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[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 238 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The old pope died of cringe when he met Vance so I'd consider this a threat.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 174 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh yes, world renowned theologian James David Vance foremost expert on theol...wait theology is when you fuck couches right?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 100 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

i thought his name was jance dance vance

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 33 points 3 weeks ago

What's wrong Jance Dance? You barely janked the jouch?

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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 143 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Isn't the Pope supposed to be the guy for Catholics, appointed to directly hear God's voice on Earth, and spread it to the masses? And if that's the case, aren't all these faux-Christians disagreeing with him - like Vance - disagreeing with the very God they purport to worship?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 132 points 3 weeks ago

Catholics can disagree with the pope on secular matters, the problem here is that the pope is quoting the catechism almost verbatim, and convert-boy is throwing a tantrum because he joined the church based on aesthetics and not any kind of conviction.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 68 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A bunch of Protestants think the Pope is the Antichrist, but apparently Vance identifies as Catholic, so yeah, he's defying God. Catholic doctrine also holds that the Pope is infallible when ruling on theology.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The latter is not universal. Several popes have explicitly stated that they are indeed fallible (which would render total infallibility self-contradictory). Also, infallibility is generally limited in certain ways that I won't bother researching in enough depth to put into a concise description. But the pope can't just make up some random shit and have it automatically considered to be the word of God.

Of course, pointing out that someone violates the basic tenets of Catholicism while naming those specific tenets is well within "the pope is right" territory.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the infallibility part is only when he speaks "ex cathedra" which is a pretty narrow and specific time, but I'm not a Catholic.

A quick Google says the last time that was done was in 1950.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The man converted to catholicism then within a few years was beefing with two popes in a row on basic catholicism.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 112 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they forget to give him the brochure when he converted to Catholicism?

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 19 points 3 weeks ago

Right? Is he not treading excommunication territory with this shit?

Lay Catholics aren’t supposed to challenge the Pope like that. Even Cardinals wouldn’t get away with saying something so obnoxious.

[–] dumbass@piefed.social 89 points 3 weeks ago

I've killed a pope before and I'll do it again! - J.D 'Couch Fucker' Vance

[–] dizzle18@lemmy.zip 73 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

JD literally woke up one morning and decided to debate theology with the fucking Vicar of Christ.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

INNNNN THIS CORNER, wearing all white and a skull cap, he's the Vicar of Christ, the Bishop of Rome, the SUCCESSOR to the Price of the Apostles, iiiiiiiIIIITS POPE LEO THE FOURTEENTH!!

And in THIS CORNER, wearing a tailored suit and red tie, Couch fucker, white trash cosplayer and world's worst negotiator, John Dilbert Vaaaaaaance!

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Look, they already decided they knew science better than scientists, they knew war better than military generals, they knew economy better than economists.

Why did aynone think they would stop at theology?

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 65 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

yikes. Said by a converted catholic.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 65 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

The utter fucking nerve of these assholes.

I'm not even a christian anymore, Catholic or otherwise. In fact I've long since gone full on athiest.

But even I'M offended by this new level of horseshit by the Trump clown-show.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

When Vance tells a Pope to be careful, that Pope should be careful. You know, considering Vance's established track record with Popes...

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 46 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I still find it so fucking funny that this nimrod was the best candidate trumps campaign could find.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago

Paid for by Peter Thiel.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago

What does "best" mean in a kakistocracy?

Best, in this case, means Peter Thiel's check cleared.

Also, I'm sure there weren't many candidates for the job, considering Trump tried to get the last guy killed.

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you're not a Catholic, you might not understand how fucked up it is for Vance to stand there and call the Pope wrong about theology.

By definition, the Pope is right about religion. If he changes his mind tomorrow, he was right then and he is right now.

The equivalent would be if I became a Buddhist and then told the current Dalai Lama he was doing it wrong. Or maybe if I became a Hindu and then insisted that, actually, cheeseburgers are fuckin' awesome.

No joke, Vance is like two more dumbass statements away from being excommunicated.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Arguably, there would be decent historic precedent for excommunicating Vance RIGHT NOW.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago

Shut up, Vance.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Vatican should be taking threat very seriously. He did kill the last Pope

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's be pretty funny if ol' James got excommunicated. Do it, Pope!

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

That's not how being Pope works. I know this, and I'm not even Catholic.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 29 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It is a bit like saying a professor of mathematics with 10+ years of experience in teaching calculus should be careful when talking about calculus.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

... from a guy who just heard about calculus for the first time

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

Beefing with the pope should definitely have been on my bingo card for this administration, I feel stupid for not seeing it coming now.

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Jelly Donut Vance, the master of reverse reasoning.

"Whatever makes sense"

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 23 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, declaring war on the pope is a time honoured Christian tradition.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

One of the requirements for being a fascist is being stupid. Vance is no exception to that rule.

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 20 points 3 weeks ago

Couch Fucker vs The Word of God. I'm not a religious man, but I know who I'd believe.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago

MAGA has come to the Catholic Church, and we've all seen what happens when MAGA comes to town. If he's smart, the Pope should excommunicate him immediately, and threaten every other MAGA with the same if they don't straighten up.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

That's like lecturing Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking in physics lol

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

At least this time he warned the pope unlike the previous one.

[–] Oyml77@lemmy.today 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jerkface Douche Vance, God is never on the side of those that wield the sword, IE the aggressor. That would be the US and Israel in Iran, you fucking moron.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Hey, I know we're dunking on Vance, but you should really try reading the Bible before making that claim. What you find might surprise you.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] monk200@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Can't forget that Vance killed the last pope 🤷‍♂️

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