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And this is not going to end even if they ban them. Mark those songs as AI and let people filter them out.
But we do need a new music service where every artist has to prove they are the ones making music on live stream and only then they are allowed to upload songs.
Mark those songs as AI and let people filter them out.
Deezer does just that. As per the article:
Songs tagged as AI-generated on Deezer are automatically removed from algorithmic recommendations and not included in editorial playlists. The company announced today that it will no longer store hi-res versions of AI tracks.
They've been working on systems to recognise AI songs for quite some time now.
i'm sure most people using streaming platforms don't care about it. a lot of people don't even know what their favorite genre is, they just play whatever is popular or getting into their feed.
I quit Spotify when I found that half of the music on random jazz playlists I'd listen to were all AI. My whole family told me I was full of shit and they've never encountered that haha. Caused a lot of drama since we have a family plan.
Fuck me man, I guess I'll just never consume art again.
Even if I tell you that Hans Zimmer is cooking Dune 3 score?
Nah, there's still all the art that was created before GenAI, from the Epic of Gilgamesh to Undertale.
I have no idea what Deezer is, and I'm afraid if I ask, somebody is just going to say "DEEZER NUTS!!!" and I will realize it was a big prank.
Music streaming like Spotify or Napster.
Spot deez nuts!
Nutster
It is a less shitty alternative to Spotify, while costing less. They are also paying artists considerably more.
Self-gottem
Yikes
I personally started to use Qobuz. Their algorithm isn't great, their target group is more the more distinguished music listener but their library is pretty much as big as any others plus they do have the largest library of hi-res music too and they actually sell also hi-res and CD lossless music if that is of interest to you. Most importantly though, they have a "ban-AI-music" stance on their platform. Soon enough, one will have to rely on platforms like that if one does not want to wade through a sea of AI slop.
The downside is that Qobuz is a bit more expensive than others (while paying the most to artists however, as far as I know).
I wanted to get into Qobuz but couldn't ultimately because the higher-res streaming killed my cellular. The app would freeze constantly when and music wouldn't load properly when I'd try to stream it instead of playback downloaded music. I like the idea and it's awesome that it's higher-res music, but my phone couldn't handle it
I switched to Qobuz recently and started to actual discover new music again after years on Spotify.
From Deezer’s website, the detection system tags songs that are either fully AI generated rather than produced or mastered with the help of AI tools. You can also appeal if you believe your music was falsely flagged.
I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI (ideally by the “creator” themselves).
I wonder how accurate the AI detection tools are though, considering how common are posts where AI detection tools used in schools falsely flagged student assignments.
There was a song I quite liked which had several million views on YouTube which I was surprised to see was flagged as AI generated. No one I showed it to it could hear any obvious signs of AI. The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.
The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.
Honestly, those seem like pretty big red flags since that is how actual bands manage to actually get paid.
I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI.
I know I’m mostly preaching to the choir here, but I don’t think there’s any situation in which AI ‘has’ to be used in art.
I'm no artist. If I ever had the inspiration to make a song it would have to be AI generated. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Of course that would be a one off with a small audience.
And here I am struggling and fighting with my distributor ever time I upload a new instrumental album because they can’t confirm that it’s all original work.
Who's your distributor? I used SongTradr for a while and I'm looking for a new one for my next release
Use someone else. If the AI royalty farmers can get thousands of AI generated tracks through without issue, then your real albums should be okay too.
This (moreso for youtube music, since Deezer seems to not have a lot of East Asian labels signed) is a huge part of why I've been building out a selfhosted Navidrome.
Obviously there is the old school way of getting music. But Bandcamp is WAY more beneficial to the artists and ebay and Half Price Books are also awesome for grabbing music.
And combine all that with musicbrainz for scrobbling and discoverability of new bands.
I rrecently built a home server and tried getting into Navidrome, but I kinda disliked the UI - didn't feel as intuitive to me and kinda clunky. How do you listen to your music primarily? If on a phone, do you have an app to stream the music to you?
Symfonium on my phone (so also android auto and just connecting to a bluetooth speaker while I cook) and Feishin on my desktop. Still need to verify that scrobbles are propagated correctly for discoverability purposes (so far it looks like ratings in Feishin aren't propagated to the server).
I could probably have gotten away with just mpd but figured "why not?".
Symfonium
It's not FOSS and has the worst payment system possible (donate to the dev then send him an email, and he will give you a license for a single device), so don't feel bad pirating it.
Judging by the reviews on the app store, it's at least a 5-buck one-time purchase and not a subscription as well as a worthy purchase. I'll give this a try
