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[–] lasta@piefed.world 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

From Deezer’s website, the detection system tags songs that are either fully AI generated rather than produced or mastered with the help of AI tools. You can also appeal if you believe your music was falsely flagged.

I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI (ideally by the “creator” themselves).

I wonder how accurate the AI detection tools are though, considering how common are posts where AI detection tools used in schools falsely flagged student assignments.

There was a song I quite liked which had several million views on YouTube which I was surprised to see was flagged as AI generated. No one I showed it to it could hear any obvious signs of AI. The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 42 points 1 month ago

The main red flags were that the artists released several albums in a short time span and had no online presence on any platform you would expect to see musicians on (Bandcamp, Discogs, etc) besides YouTube and the streaming ones.

Honestly, those seem like pretty big red flags since that is how actual bands manage to actually get paid.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I strongly oppose the use of generative AI in art but if it has to be done, it should at least be labeled as AI.

I know I’m mostly preaching to the choir here, but I don’t think there’s any situation in which AI ‘has’ to be used in art.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

With good mastering post, you can mostly eliminate the "Suno shimmer", but other than artists using local models, the big ones (Suno, Udio, et al) have digital fingerprinting in the audio file... which is also part of the reason for the "Suno shimmer" sound.

Also, Suno is partnered with WMG since November... their model has license.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Tunes generated by LLM bots should never considered as music.

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe they should stop allowing it

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[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

I have no idea what Deezer is, and I'm afraid if I ask, somebody is just going to say "DEEZER NUTS!!!" and I will realize it was a big prank.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is a less shitty alternative to Spotify, while costing less. They are also paying artists considerably more.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The last sentence is a little scary to me, not because it's a bad thing, but because it's probably catnip to scammers/AI generators. I hope they can do a good job of detecting it and keeping those scammers at bay, and not paying them for unaware listeners' mistakes

As far as I have read they do a lot to prevent that. AI "artists" (shartists?) don't show in the all tab when searching, don't get added to radio mixes, and dont get any payments from Deezer. Their AI generated tagging seems pretty accurate, I just wish it was exposed in the API so other projects could use it

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 8 points 1 month ago

Not necessarily, if they are more hostile towards that kind of "content" than in this case Spotify, it isn't necessarily more attractive to AI scammers.

[–] Atropos@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Self-gottem

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Music streaming like Spotify or Napster.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Spot deez nuts!

Nutster

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[–] navigator@piefed.zip 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And here I am struggling and fighting with my distributor ever time I upload a new instrumental album because they can’t confirm that it’s all original work.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Use someone else. If the AI royalty farmers can get thousands of AI generated tracks through without issue, then your real albums should be okay too.

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I personally started to use Qobuz. Their algorithm isn't great, their target group is more the more distinguished music listener but their library is pretty much as big as any others plus they do have the largest library of hi-res music too and they actually sell also hi-res and CD lossless music if that is of interest to you. Most importantly though, they have a "ban-AI-music" stance on their platform. Soon enough, one will have to rely on platforms like that if one does not want to wade through a sea of AI slop.

The downside is that Qobuz is a bit more expensive than others (while paying the most to artists however, as far as I know).

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

This (moreso for youtube music, since Deezer seems to not have a lot of East Asian labels signed) is a huge part of why I've been building out a selfhosted Navidrome.

Obviously there is the old school way of getting music. But Bandcamp is WAY more beneficial to the artists and ebay and Half Price Books are also awesome for grabbing music.

And combine all that with musicbrainz for scrobbling and discoverability of new bands.

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[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fuck me man, I guess I'll just never consume art again.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago

Even if I tell you that Hans Zimmer is cooking Dune 3 score?

Nah, there's still all the art that was created before GenAI, from the Epic of Gilgamesh to Undertale.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago
[–] manxu@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Music is a weird art form, because something sounding familiar is very important to our ear. Many people have a really hard time liking music that is too foreign to their taste and end up sticking with only a select few genres.

Where familiarity is important, AI can deliver easily. I would think as much as we hate the idea, there is a pretty significant market for AI-generated music, specifically because it's so predictable and follows convention to a tee.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

There is indeed a market for people who don't care what is playing or who made it, and just want to hear the same familiar generic chords, rhythms, and vocals of whatever genre(s) they've grown up listening to. Not to be too blunt, but some people have no taste, and yes, they can eat slop and not notice the difference. Ok, good for them.

But those people are throwing fertilizer on AI weeds that will consume all the water and sunlight that nurtures actual music. That is really a problem.

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[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Or someone trying to eek out a living with their music can get paid to do so. There's no shortage of music to suit people's tastes, the problem is discovering it because Spotify sucks at recommendations, and actively promotes AI slop to pad their profit margins while stiffing real musicians. So many mixes use AI instead of recommending actual artists specifically so they don't have to pay royalties.

There might be a market for talentless trash music generators, but it actively harms real people creating real music with their real talent, and I refuse to participate. Fuck AI music. Just because there's a market for something, doesn't automatically mean it's good, or the right thing to do.

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[–] musket528@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i'm sure most people using streaming platforms don't care about it. a lot of people don't even know what their favorite genre is, they just play whatever is popular or getting into their feed.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I quit Spotify when I found that half of the music on random jazz playlists I'd listen to were all AI. My whole family told me I was full of shit and they've never encountered that haha. Caused a lot of drama since we have a family plan.

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