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“HB 211 is a debt trap. It creates a population of people who are, by definition, unable to pay. And then converts that inability into a labor obligation,” Michael Ryan, a finance expert and founder of MichaelRyanMoney.com, told Newsweek. “The ‘streets to success’ framing is deliberate misdirection. No legitimate treatment program requires the patient to work off their bill under threat of incarceration."

I'm morbidly fascinated by how carefully this article avoids using the obvious term. But slavery. It's slavery. It is a bill that would literally, legally, enslave a population (of predominantly Black men, fucking surprise) for the "crime" of being poor.

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[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

media is owned by the boots

[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I can't find the new article now, but a few years back I remember a prison warden in Louisiana grousing about the possibility that pot would become legal saying, "We don't want that, marijuana offenders are the best workers. They're not violent, don't cause trouble and do good work."

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Jim Crow with a fresh coat of paint.

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

always has been

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, that's employment, this has to be something new, then.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So we should arm the homeless then.

I am going to say it that they have a right to self defense against tyranny as much as much some toothless Trump supporter.

[–] leagman1@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Y'all are so unbelievably mad over there.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago
[–] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 9 points 6 days ago

It's not a hard concept guys, slavery it's bad

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Every chance they get, they prove they are NAZIs

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

this is 18th century english shit

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We're one potato famine away from losing half our Irish population.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 6 days ago

That’s going to be a lot of people considering half of America calls themself “Irish”

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Some fits that.

All of it in context is what the Nazis did:

First the immigrants,

Then, the homeless.

Next, will be the disabled. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-trump-administrations-war-on-disability/

After that will be the LGBT community.

This is apart from all of the other action LA that follow including destroying the country and it's institutions after purging the military and creating his own storm troopers

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

No need to look to Europe here. This is the black codes.

[–] deadymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Povertycrime

[–] 10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip 81 points 1 week ago (7 children)

That's just slavery with extra steps. But we already have for profit prison work camps. So I guess it's just a different flavor of slavery. Oh, and the ice "holding facilities" and "detention centers" because due process is only for white americans, aparently. They might start making them do labor also. You know, digging ditches and standing naked in front of them with a bulleye chest. That sort of thing. What happened to the whole world fighting against the one bad country?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

Just an ugly reminder that slavery wasn't actually outlawed in the US.

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[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why do journalists mince words? If you are "coerced into unpaid labour" you are enslaved

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The media are owned and controlled by the ruling class - the same class of people who also own and control for-profit prisons, and also own and control elected politicians through lobbying.

As I always say, under capitalism, democracy means the power of the state is auctioned off to the highest bidder.

How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?

Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop.

Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining.

The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed.

So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups.

To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked.

That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.

But can't capitalism can be reformed?

While, of course, some laws to reform capitalism can be passed, and would definitely alleviate the worst harm caused, over the long term, capitalism cannot be reformed.

Any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism.

The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century America.

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[–] Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Kinda weird that it's literally illegal there to take a little mid afternoon nap out in public, by the edge of a lake or under the shade in a nice park, etc.

Odd people.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

The word is evil. Evil people

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Unpaid labor?

You mean slavery?

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I had "bring back slavery" on my bingo card. I just need 'nuclear holocaust' to win now. 🤞

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of unrelated but I'm working on crossword and I could really use some help. Does anyone know a word for compulsory unpaid labor? Seven letters. Starts with an "S."

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh workhouses are back? Greaaaat

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.
“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman.

“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”
“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

“This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Louisiana is fast tracking classic American slavery

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Hey, I called it!

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19594178

They're just gonna revert back to the 'no one wants to work' mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.

Combine that with the Grants Pass decision literally criminalizing homelesness, and yep, somehow, slavery returned!

Oh boy do I just sure love being right about things like this...

holy shit this country is literally evil

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bell Riots when? We are long overdue

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

You mean the current prison system in the South, but expanded so that anyone without the ability to pay rent is a criminal? Yes, but call it slavery 3.0. The guys doing 20 years on chain gangs for pot possession would be slavery 2.0, which started basically as soon as OG slavery was made illegal. It's never gone away. Rebranded.

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