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[–] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Thorry@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed, this is exactly what reinforcement learning and neural networks are good at. Calling them AI is beyond dumb, but hey marketing will be marketing. It's pattern recognition, which is cool, but nobody would call that intelligent otherwise. Another big issue with the marketing is they only report on the success rate and not the failure rate. Doctors praise the cases being caught, but dislike the models pointing out stuff that is clearly not a tumor. It wastes time for people already short on time. These models also risk doctors becoming over reliant on them, even though they can have serious blind spots and thus miss stuff a doctor would have caught. Or the other way around, have people receive treatment (often not without risk, discomfort and cost to the patient), where none was needed. The thing that bothers me the most is how it's always framed as a win for AI. Like see AI is good at diagnosing cancer (which then gets extrapolated to curing cancer for some bizarre reason), so that useless chat bot is also good somehow. Because AI.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Robert Murphy's lab at Carnegie Mellon has developing learning sets like this for 20 years.

This is not designed to replace medical opinion, it's designed to cross check as pathologists and radiologist have about 1% misses which is not acceptable.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that takes actual work. See how the LLM systems are constantly wrong? That is because after you get to about 80% accuracy the rest will murder you.

This would take time and actual investment. Not something big tech can handle.

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

~~can~~ wants to

FTFY

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, instead I'm pretty sure those data centers and Theil's AI/Anti-Christ talk are because they see the "real money" is in AI porn.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's particularly useful for pancreatic cancer, if it's accurate, reliable, cost effective, and practical in the real world.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Hey lookie here, the statistical pattern matching algorithm has some uses that could help society maybe possibly. Sure beats replacing artists or building inefficient chat bots that give people the Eliza effect.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

seems they need scans from different patients, like alot of them to make it look accurate. i wonder how well it will do with 1 scan only, because a biopsy after 1 scan/ or another scam is unneccesary waste and expensive it detects one and finds nothing, biopsis are not pleasant. definitely on the cost and reliability, since it needs more than 1 scan, it likely would cost alot.

another point in the article, is the "abnormal cells hiding the actual cancer cells" likely could be abnormal fibroblasts, which are found in other cancer cells that feed the cancer itself(by giving up its neutrients"