This post makes you sound like you think a woman's purpose is to have babies.
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The main problem of most developed societies is horribly low fertility rates.
It's not an opinion if it's just straight up factually incorrect.
What’s going on in your brain that low fertility is the main problem?
Like have you take a look at the news lately?
And from that spectacularly uninformed position, we’re supposed to entertain your radical sexist plan to replace public education?
Are you a woman? Just curious
Reasons women say they don't have children: 1) They can hardly sustain themselves economically and 2) They can't find a partner
No amount of psychology training will get you to magically earn x3 or will give you the power to change adults behavior. No amount of education will fix your own shortcomings as a person either.
You want fertility rates up ? Fix your economy, get rid of corruption, make housing affordable, promote better role models, invest in actual community strengthening so people can build healthy relationships (and also crime rates go down). And affordable quality healthcare would probably help too.
You're definitely posting in the right place. I'll give you that.
No, the main problem with developed societies is the need for infinite growth to sustain the capitalist ponzi scheme. Without that, depopulation isn't a problem.
As a man I have to say. WHAT THE FUCK!
Funny, before things got as bad as they are now, I used to think the main problem with society was overpopulation. It's no longer the main problem, but it's up there.
The reason for low fertility rates is in large parts due to capitalism. I want at least one more child, but it is too expensive. We need to get a bigger apartment, which is prohibitably expensive. Want to stay home with the child? Too bad, both parents have to work to make the economy work. If you want higher fertility rates we just have to make it easier to become a parent through systemic changes, and lots and lots of reforms helping parents
I'm not saying you're wrong - there are always people who have financial constraints. I'm just saying that there's also a lot of people who could absolutely afford larger family but for some reason they choose not to.
Then the solution is still to make those that actually want to able to. This is anecdotal, but I know several people that delay or do not get children due to their finances. That is in Norway, with the best or close to the best support and security net for families. Society is not made to have children, and if you dare go above two children, then you will have a lot of disadvantages. So the practical maximum for most people is two, unless you live where there is almost no jobs, on top of that not everyone gets children. The practical maximum is due to car size, home size, budgets etc. Do you want your child to own a home some day? Then you have to pretty much make sure they are able to financially and start straight away, which is not something they will be able to themselves. All these reasons contribute to there being born less than two children per woman.
Society has a few choices to maintain the population
- Make it a lot easier to have children and give them the best possible life. Make it an obvious choice. Free childcare, free healthcare, parental leave, financial support, etc.
- Force, direct or indirect (economical, loss of rights, anti abortion, etc)
- Immigration
You could just as well train the boys to be the primary caregivers.
With posts like this I always have one question “what was her name?” The girl who didn’t like you the way you liked her.
Cause it’s clearly her fault she didn’t like you, right?
It couldn’t possibly be your inability to look beyond your own … ahem , desires… to see a woman as anything other than a place for you to put your … ahem, manhood.
Could it?
Declining birth rates are directly related to declining quality of men.
Why shouldn't men also have better knowledge of psychology, health, childcare...?
It takes two to build a strong and stable relationship, let alone a family.
lol. main problem is low fertility.
You think women choose to not have babies because they don't know enough about psychology...???
This post was definitely written by a man. Let's take it a few steps further though.
Women should be taught finances to take care of the family's money since the man doesn't need to know or worry about this. Men should take courses in child rearing and safety to raise the children while their wives go to brunch and hang out with their friends. Men should learn women's anatomy to please their wife correctly so that she stays with him and the family unit increases cohesion. Men need to take courses in construction, electrical and plumbing so that they can fix things around their house and keep their family happy.
Women should be the ones that learn how to drive bc they are the ones that need to pick up groceries for their family. A wife can drive her husband to his job and back if she needs to. A man learning how to drive is just a distraction for him focusing on generating income and resources for his family and keeping his family house well maintained
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Congratulations! You achieved the goal of the community.
But now I feel the need to ask: are you not aware that what you propose is going back on civilizational achievements of nearly a century?
It doesn't go back on civilization achievements. It simply turns a blind eye to the main socioeconomic issues stopping women from having children. It also comically removes any and all responsibility on relationship building from men. It's an odd take for sure
The main reasoning revolves around mandating roles through "education". Education has always been a way to elevate individuals and, by extension, civilization. Education here is used as a locking mechanism, not a liberation one.
That is why I understand it as a civilization regress.
That's a fair take, I can agree with this perspective.
If women have a power that men don't have, and it's the key to solving society's problems, would they not leverage that power to gain a survival advantage so their offspring are the ones leading the way? They would spend time getting educated and starting businesses before having children. They would become more selective of who they choose as mating partners. <- we are here.
By essentializing women as baby-makers, men have created a power differential against themselves! They have become scared and depressed and would rather goon to clavicular videos than provide women with what's needed to start families. Women have accepted the responsibility, and you're noticing the upheaval this shift in roles creates.
Men are collectively disempowered because none of them are thinking about what they should be doing in life. They sit around talking about what women should be studying. Men should be studying women.
I think women, on average, already "know enough" to raise kids. IMO, it's more of a sociocultural problem stemming from consumerism, hedonism, extreme individualism and "prolonged adolescence", all in a cultural context that disregards the value of family and deeper human connections and sees childrearing as a burden that has to be scheduled around/after more important things like travelling and partying. This is also fueled by negative, often traumatic experiences in childhood, which will often kill one's hope in the future and one's perceived competence in successfully raising a family. It's hard to consider it a purely/mostly economic problem as significantly poorer societies and comparatively poorer immigrants in Western societies still have more children and at earlier ages.
I think you nailed most of the reasons, at least from my day to day observations.
I think women, on average, already “know enough” to raise kids.
I'd add they are afraid of responsibility, while at the same time they don't know how rewarding building a family can be. Education system could help with that.
It's a mixture of fear and immature dislike for it. To be an adult is to welcome responsibility, to take care of more than just yourself, and idk if that is concentrated more in women (I'd argue the opposite actually, the biological clock kinda pushes women at some point, successfully or not, to mentally grow up). 👍
The problem of low fertility rates ends up not being that women choose to be educated but rather that education was designed to be a trap for people who were very smart but weren't actually powerful leaders commanding wealth and militaries. The solution is not gender-based education but the destruction of the patriarchy and its institutions, including the university. When patriarchy is destroyed, fertility rates will be where they need to be, in ecological terms.
Smash the patriarchy to solve all the problems you think exist on this topic. Smash it. Destroy it. Dismantle it. Join with men to help us tear it down and rebuild society anew.