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I might be a little too claustrophobic to go on a ride myself, although I have never tried. And I feel immense respect towards people that do serve onboard submarines. With all my claustrophobia, I have this positive prejudice that it must be amazingly cosy to sleep onboard: feeling slight motions as the submarine moves, hearing the engine hum, having a "sleepover" with people you trust with your life...

Do any of you have any experience sleeping in (why do I want to say "on"...) a submarine? What's the actual feeling like? ๐Ÿ˜Š

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[โ€“] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The rack space is extremely small. Smaller than a surface vessel. I can't remember the exact dimensions but I want to say in the range of 50 centimeters between the mattress and the bunk above you. The racks are in the range of maybe 65-75 cm deep. The mattress is maybe 10cm. All your gear has to fit into the rack, which lifts up on hinges, so maybe you have 6-10 total cm of storage below your rack. I went out of my way to get a mini-disk player when I got shore-leave in japan so I could bring more music with me underway. Also, you are probably sharing this rack space with another sailor because if you are jr. enlisted on a submarine, its almost certain you are hot-racking, which means, someone else is going to crawl into your rack and sleep once you get out of your rack. This serves two function, first you need 24 hour coverage on all watch stations, and, well there isn't a ton of sunlight anyways so since you'll need to cover a 24 hour watch regardless, you can get away with fewer racks than you have sailors. Its always hot in the rackspace. Cooling and heating requires pumps. Pumps make noise so you generally just don't do it. Just a bunch of sweaty sailors and their dirty socks for weeks on end. Yeah maybe you trust them with your life but you sure af better not trust them with your socks. There are also people constantly coming in and coming out of the rack space. So you'll almost never get undisturbed sleep.

As far as motion.. Unless you are doing something like a maneuver, or you are just getting underway or at battle stations, you don't feel practically any motion on a submarine. You intentionally get below the surface sufficiently to avoid any impacts of wave action, because why wouldn't you? I would say sea-sickness is far less of an issue on subs for exactly this reason. If there is significant wave action, just go deeper. Now if you are at battle stations or in combat or doing exercises, yes, you'll 100% feel some motion, and then there are extreme cases like an embt blow, which is going to send bodies flying. But in general, slow and low and trying to create as little motion as possible is the goal with how you are going to practically manage a submarine underway.

As far as sound. Its called the silent service for a reason. Practically every decision is made with a thought about how much sound is this going to make. Every wire run, every pipe, every pump, every circuit; everything is done with a consideration of what impact this is going to have on your profile because the entire point is to be practically invisible to not only other submarines, but surface vessels or anyone else who might be running sonar. Anything humming.. thats an unmitigated disaster if you are a submarine and is a practical announcement to any other vessels in your vicinity "Here we are, and here is where we are going".

So what is it really like? Take a 3 meter x 3 meter garden shed. fit you and 15 of your closest friends onto some of those cheap plastic storage shelves.. and spread some corn-nuts or similar smelling items around to get the full authentic experience. Oh and hit everyone in the head with a hammer because I didn't mention the part about dropping oxygen levels to reduce the risk of fire. So you are always going to be groggy and have a tension headache. But maybe after a couple years you'll be able to afford college.

[โ€“] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

That's a great read, thanks. I was already put off submarine travel by the Kursk disaster but this has added another layer of "no thanks".

[โ€“] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit. I mean, thank you so much for your service and your detailed response! This was the whole reason for my post: to learn what it's actually like.

Avoiding detection by sonar... Does that mean that the engines are actually off when "simply" idling when not during combat or relocating?

My takeaway is: it's a sprint of discomfort with the purpose of paying off college. /j I'm so gonna brag at work about knowing these details! /s

[โ€“] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

So my sub was a modern nuclear sub. It had both a reactor and a diesel engine. But modern diesels and even some older ones, they would get close to the surface to run their diesel (because you need oxygen for combustion) via a snorkel to charge batteries, then go back under.

A reactor is much quieter than a diesel. And batteries are quieter still. Water moving through pipes, anything with periodic motion, is going to have a frequency. And sound moves far more effectively under water. So generally yes, in operation, you aren't running equipment like the diesel engine. The goal is to be sneaky. Running a diesel is practically announcing to the whole ocean "here I am".

[โ€“] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not many fat sub sailers then?
Is it 12h shifts?

[โ€“] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago

Not many fat sub sailors then?

Oh quite the opposite... one treadmill. All the way aft. In the smoking area.

Is it 12h shifts?

Depends if you are forward or aft, nature of mission/ training, and how many stations/ personal your division has for any given underway.

Standard is when I was enlisted was actually 6 hour shifts on a rotating 18 hour day. 18 hour days you say? But wouldn't that make Homer something something..

I think its now 8 hour standard shifts and sailors are far less suicidal and depressed, at least so I've heard.

[โ€“] early_riser@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

When I was in the Boy Scouts we took a weekend trip to the USS Lexington in Corpus Christi. We slept aboard in the births used by the sailors. I don't know if I was below the water line but I imagine the sights and smells were similar to a sub. It smelled like fuel oil. The births were very small. Can't remember how I felt but I don't think I had a bad night. The most distinct thing I remember is that instead of turning off all the lights they turned some of the overhead lights off but others changed from white to red. For some reason I found that really cool.

When smart LED bulbs started coming out in the mid 2010s I bought a bunch to replicate the experience, in Philips Hue's own app at first but now with Home Assistant. I have a scene called "submarine mode" that turns all the lights red. I do this an hour or so before bed and sometimes when I wake up but don't want to get out of bed right away. My bathroom lights are motion activated (also via Home Assistant) and it's great being able to see where I'm going without it being too bright.

[โ€“] BussyCat@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Modern subs are almost all nuclear powered so less of the diesel smell (still some from lubricants) but nuclear subs can be underwater for weeks at a time so they have to scrub the air which is an imperfect process that leads to some funky smells

[โ€“] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Wow! Thanks for sharing! How awesome that you replicated the environment to some extent! I too have some Philips Hue bulbs and without knowing anything about subs, I already had them turn red when I go to bed. Maybe tomorrow I'll put an open container of heavy motor grease next to my bed for the full 4D experience. ๐Ÿ˜† Thanks again!

[โ€“] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rented a house boat once. Never again. Didn't sleep for three days.

[โ€“] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry that wasn't a good experience. I would sleep like a baby. I would probably sleep in water if I could.

[โ€“] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Got you covered if you have 4 mil laying around. ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

Shit, if I had 4 million that would be a bargain. Get me the internet and a dock and a boat for grocery runs and holy fuck I'd be in heaven. Oh that all might need to handle hurricane weather because I'm planting it off the coast of some Caribbean country.

[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

Im not claustrophobic at all but I think I might freak out from the nature of it. Like space its this thing where outside the vessel is death.

If you have time to sleep, you're not making enough progress in qualifications