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[–] refreeze@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It sucks that we had no realistic (as in actually able to win) alternative. Not exactly thrilled with him, but he is clearly better than the other possible leader we could have been stuck with.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

This. He's not a climate guy. But the alternatives would destroy the environment to spite people who want to protect it.

At least Carney can be reasoned with.

[–] CaperGrrl79@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

From what I understand, he used to be greener. But there's a lot at stake to play ball with... and Trump is volatile. So is Danielle Smith...

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Agreed. There's definitely an element of Realpolitik at play. The USA is creating a power vacuum and Canada needs to fill enough of that void in the short term to maintain leverage long term.

I don't know much about China or Russia but I'm going to assume their billionaire oligarchs as equally soulless as the cretins that rule western nations.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Did anyone ever think he was a climate guy? He was voted for mostly being neither Trudeau nor Poilievre. It's been a big positive otherwise that he's a true statesman, but I can't imagine what would have made anyone think he was a climate guy.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The people who appointed him UN special envoy for climate action probably thought he was a climate guy. The people who read his book (not me) seemed to think he was a climate guy. The people who believed his election campaign promises might've thought he was a climate guy. He probably still thinks he's a climate guy.

He talks a lot about the importance of climate change, so it comes as a surprise to quite a few people that he doesn't seem to be in favour of doing anything about it.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

I read his book. My impression was he'd stop the orphan grinding machine... not make it solar powered.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

What kbal said, but also, let's be real here: nobody who's not taking the climate emergency seriously is a "true statesman". It's just plain unserious and irresponsible, like calling a junkie who says "oh I'll just have one shot of heroin this Friday and I'm going to check myself into rehab Monday" committed to getting clean. That's not statesmanship, it's just profound luck of seriousness in the face of overwhelming evidence. Any politician who's not "a climate guy" is by definition a clown.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago
[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

This is my third attempt to comment without relaying my disgust at all these stupid questions.

Fuck off you nitwits!

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

No one who understands what bankers stand for ever thought he would be a climate guy.

Woooow really? Who woulda thunk that the ultra capitalist establishment guy would do such things?